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Subject: [office] OpenDocument TC Work Call Minutes 2006-07-31
1. Dial-In, Roll Call Members: Nathaniel Borenstein, IBM Yue Ma, IBM Helen Yue, IBM James Mason, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC34 Michael Brauer, Sun Microsystems Lars Oppermann, Sun Microsystems Gary Edwards, The OpenDocument Foundation David Wheeler, The OpenDocument Foundation Observers: Dhananjay Keskar, Intel 2. Minutes Approval, Action Items This is the first work call after a period of coordination calls only. there are no past minutes and action items. 3. SC status Formula SC (DavidW) recently posted comprehensive status report on list. there was discussion about namespacing formulas and functions. We decided to use DNS-like prefixes to qualify names rather than using XML qnames inside attribute values which is not viewed as a good design. The formula SC is currently working on the function definitions. We could greatly accelerate this process, if more people would help to write function definitions. We are asking everyone who could spare a few cycles on such work to help us with this. We are looking at ~300 functions that have to be defined for our first version. These are a union of the functions provided in the most popular spreadsheet applications and are thus a foundation for interoperability. (Michael) should the TC review (and maybe approve) the syntax specification since that is now finished? (DavidW) There are a few issues remaining with naming and error handling. We plan to have those resolved by next Thursday. We would submit that version to the TC for review. (Lars) how is the different calculation behavior of different applications handled in the specification? E.g. automatic conversion of text-content into numbers... (DavidW) Especially automatic conversions are a very fragile feature, as they tend to break with different locales (number formatting). We are investigating to define 'calculation-settings' where such behavior can be defined but there will be some documents, that are using undefined implicit conversions in a way that they might not be interoperable. (Michael) what is the current time-line? (DavidW) we were aiming at finishing by September. Function definitions are a lot of work and we are needing more people to work at those in order to speed things up. Otherwise we will slip into October. (Michael) we are currently planning ODF 1.2 for mid-2007. So it looks like we will have a stable formula specification for that version for sure. (Michael) will formulas be a separate document or should the eventually be included into the main specification? (DavidW) I think it makes sense to keep them separated. (Michael) I concur, and it gives us more flexibility when planning releases Are there any requirements from the formula SC for the main specification of ODF? (David) some minor changes/additions will be needed, e.g. description of the equal-sign, calculation-settings (for text-number-conversion) (Michael) all implementor should indicate if they are planning to propose additions to 1.2 as early as possible. I will also ask SC chairs to state their deliverables for 1.2 in order to finalize the roadmap for 1.2 (Gary) is it possible to have a public review of the formula specification without going though an OASIS voting afterwards (Michael) yes, but I will re-check with OASIS (Mary) how we can best handle this 4. Next Meeting: coordination call: 2006-08-07, 3:00PM-4:00PM UTC
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