RE: [office] ISO/IEC 26300

["Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>]

Hi Michael,

  I'm going to check with a few folks at OASIS to see if there's any objection.

Regards,

Mary 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael.Brauer@Sun.COM [mailto:Michael.Brauer@Sun.COM] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 2:36 AM
> To: Mason, James David (MXM)
> Cc: Robin Cover; Patrick Durusau; robert_weir@us.ibm.com; 
> James Bryce Clark; Mary McRae; office@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [office] ISO/IEC 26300
> 
> Jim,
> 
> thank you very much for these clarifications. I think it 
> would be very useful if the ISO26300:2006 would be available 
> for download on the OASIS web site. Though the OpenDocument 
> TC could provide it on its web page, I think it would be more 
> appropriate if it would be available at the global OASIS web 
> pages, where the OASIS standards are listed.
> 
> Mary, do you think this is possible?
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Michael
> 
> Mason, James David (MXM) wrote:
> > We can post it on both Ken's site and mine and not charge. 
> OASIS, as 
> > the originator, can post it and not charge. But JTC1 and 
> ISO aren't in 
> > the business of posting things; they're just not set up for 
> that kind 
> > of service. All they know about (!) is printing paper.
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robin Cover [mailto:robin@oasis-open.org]
> > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:40 AM
> > To: Patrick Durusau
> > Cc: robert_weir@us.ibm.com; James Bryce Clark; Mary McRae; Michael 
> > Brauer; odf-adoption@lists.oasis-open.org; 
> office@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: Re: [office] ISO/IEC 26300
> > 
> > Hmmmm... I may have misunderstood the initial request to 
> have the spec 
> > posted "cost free".  I assumed he meant:
> > 
> > "Freely Available Standards"
> > 
> http://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/2000/2489/Ittf_Home/Publi
> > cl
> > yAvailableStandards.htm
> > 
> > per (e.g.,):
> > 
> > Freely Available ISO Standards for BPX and Developers 
> Gunther Stuhec, 
> > SAP Blog
> > 
> > Most of the ISO standards are copyrighted and ISO charges 
> for the most 
> > copies. It is possible to purchase it direclty by ISO or even the 
> > related national standardization body, like DIN (German 
> > Standardization Institute). The charge depends mostly on 
> the pages or 
> > even size of the standard. It is approximately 100 Swiss Francs per 
> > copy. However, in accordance with ISO/IEC JTC 1 and the ISO and IEC 
> > Councils are a number of standards freely available, which 
> can be used 
> > for standardization purposes. You'll find these freely available 
> > standard: (A) Freely Available Standards provided by ISO, and (B) 
> > Freely Standards Download provided by ANSI (American National 
> > Standards Institute). The Business Process Expert (BPX) has the 
> > opportunity to get freely available ISO standards, in where some of 
> > the playing a key part in reference models and open 
> distributed processing. Some of these ISO standards are:
> > (1) ISO/IEC 7498 - Open Systems Interconnection -- Basic Reference 
> > Model;
> > (2) ISO/IEC 8613 - Open Document Architecture (ODA) and Interchange 
> > Format; (3) ISO/IEC 8824 - Abstract Syntax Notification (ASN.1);
> > (4) ISO/IEC 9075 - Data Base Langauges - SQL; (5) ISO/IEC 10032 - 
> > Reference Model of Data Management; (6) ISO/IEC 10746 - Open 
> > Distributed Processing; (7) ISO/IEC 11179 - Metadata 
> Registries (MDR); 
> > (8) ISO/IEC
> > 14662 - Open-edi reference model; (9) ISO/IEC 14977 - Syntactic 
> > metalanguage; (10) ISO/IEC 15504 - Software Engineering - Process 
> > assessment; (11) ISO/IEC 15944 - Business agreement semantic 
> > descriptive techniques; (12) ISO/IEC 24824 - Generic 
> applications of 
> > ASN.1: Fast Web Services. In other words: If you need a copy of a 
> > specific ISO standard, please have a look to the provided websites, 
> > before you'll buy one. If you don't find the requested standard, 
> > please inform the ECO International Standards group, before 
> you buy a copy.
> > 
> > https://weblogs.sdn.sap.com/pub/wlg/4469
> > See also the site:
> > 
> http://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/2000/2489/Ittf_Home/Publi
> > cl
> > yAvailableStandards.htm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Patrick Durusau wrote:
> > 
> >> Rob,
> >>
> >> Hmmm, can't say I have ever heard of a "cost free" standard out of
> > ISO.
> >> ISO has complained to Jim Mason about his posting final 
> versions of 
> >> SC
> >> 34 standards to his website. He does so on the basis that any 
> >> activity
> > 
> >> that the US Gov. participates in means the result is a 
> royalty free 
> >> publication.
> >>
> >> Since he is behind heavily guarded walls at a place that makes 
> >> nuclear
> > 
> >> weapons, ISO has not pressed the issue. ;-)
> >>
> >> I can ask Jim about posting the final version to one of his
> > webservers.
> >> Would that work for you?
> >>
> >> Hope you are looking forward to a great weekend!
> >>
> >> Patrick
> >>
> >> robert_weir@us.ibm.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> Good news, and thanks to Patrick, Michael and Jamie for 
> all of your 
> >>> hard work during this process.
> >>>
> >>> Is there anything additional we can do to make this specification 
> >>> cost free in ISO?  I've seen this done with other standards out of
> > JTC1.
> >>>  Do you know how this is triggered?
> >>>
> >>> -Rob
> >>>
> >>> Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net> wrote on 12/01/2006 08:17:11
> > AM:
> >>>> Michael,
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, a bit early but should put a smile on everyone's 
> face for the 
> >>>> upcoming holiday season!
> >>>>
> >>>> Congratulations!
> >>>>
> >>>> Hope you are having a great day! (You have certainly made mine a
> >>> great one!)
> >>>> Patrick
> >>>>
> >>>> Michael Brauer wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> All:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the status of ISO/IEC 26300 is now 60.60.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Michael
> >>>>>
> >>>>> James Bryce Clark wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>   As you may know, ISO has changed the visible status of
> >>> OpenDocument
> >>>>>> v1 as approved (ISO/IEC 26300) to correctly reflect its
> >>> International
> >>>>>> Status standard, "60.00" in its harmonized stage coding.  This
> >>> can be
> >>>>>> seen by searching for "26300" in the ISO search function, after
> > 
> >>>>>> selecting "Search options > ISO number" and "Items to show > 
> >>>>>> Both", at
> >>>>>>
> > 
> http://www.iso.org/iso/en/CatalogueListPage.CatalogueList?&scopelist=A
> > LL
> > .
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   Another way into this data is the following compound search
> >>> results
> >>>>>> URI:
> >>>>>> http://www.iso.org/iso/en/catsupport/StandardsQueryFormHandler.
> >>>> StandardsQueryFormHandler?
> >>>>
> >>> 
> scope=ALL&keyword=&isoNumber=26300&sortOrder=ISO&title=true&search_t
> >>> ype=ISO&search_term=26300
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   A table of the stage codes appears here:
> >>>>>> http://www.iso.org/iso/en/widepages/stagetable.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   When the IS is released for official publication in a few 
> >>>>>> weeks, that status code will be upgraded to "60.60" to reflect 
> >>>>>> the availability of copies for sale at the ISO web store.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    Likely our next topic, regarding ISO/IEC JTC1, will 
> be what to 
> >>>>>> advise them regarding v1.1 (which you've completed and are 
> >>>>>> balloting now, congratulations) and v1.x/2.0.  We've indicated 
> >>>>>> that we plan to bring back appropriately stable revisions to 
> >>>>>> JTC1.  So the question will be which next version is 
> >>>>>> "appropriately stable."  Based on preliminary chats 
> with several 
> >>>>>> of you, it's my understanding is that
> >>>>>> v1.1 is unlikely to be suggested for resubmission.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>     Kind regards JBC
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ~ James Bryce Clark
> >>>>>> ~ Director of Standards Development, OASIS ~ 
> >>>>>> jamie.clark@oasis-open.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Patrick Durusau
> >>>> Patrick@Durusau.net
> >>>> Chair, V1 - Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems 
> >>>> Interface Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model 
> >>>> Member, Text Encoding Initiative Board of Directors, 2003-2005
> >>>>
> >>>> Topic Maps: Human, not artificial, intelligence at work!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Patrick Durusau
> >> Patrick@Durusau.net
> >> Chair, V1 - Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems 
> Interface 
> >> Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model Member, Text 
> >> Encoding Initiative Board of Directors, 2003-2005
> >>
> >> Topic Maps: Human, not artificial, intelligence at work!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> 
> 
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