Re: [office] list-override proposal

["Florian Reuter" <freuter@novell.com>]

Hi Oliver,

I don't understand what you mean by "For me, this attribute is somehow a attribute for a list, not for a list 
item."

Can you be more explicit? In fact it is an attribute of a list, right?

~Florian


>>> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann - Software Engineer - Sun Microsystems <Oliver-Rainer.Wittmann@Sun.COM> 03/13/07 10:35 AM >>>
Florian Reuter wrote:
> Can you then please define the meaning of continue-numbering?
>
No. I can only give my view on it - see below.
For me, this attribute is somehow a attribute for a list, not for a list 
item.


> Seems to me that you have a rather complex view in mind.

No, my view isn't complex. But, it doesn't seem to be complete.

Regards, Oliver.

> 
> ~Florian
> 
> 
>>>> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann - Software Engineer - Sun Microsystems <Oliver-Rainer.Wittmann@Sun.COM> 03/13/07 9:15 AM >>>
> Hi,
> 
> my view on attribute text:continue-numbering is the following:
> - The attribute makes a statement about how one list can continue the 
> numbering of the preceding list.
> - Because by default the numbering of a list *isn't* continued - see 
> first paragraph of sub chapter "Continue Numbering" of chapter "4.3.1 
> List Block", Thus, in my view the value of text:continue-numbering can't 
> be "true", if it is missing. Because this would contradict the current 
> ODF 1.1 specification.
> - The attribute is mainly introduced for lists, which are defined by 
> <text:list>.
> - Because for numbered paragraphs (text:numbered-paragraphs) the current 
> ODF 1.1 specification doesn't state, what makes a list. Thus, I've got 
> problems to apply with attribute to numbered paragraphs - it's not clear 
> in ODF 1.1 what makes a list a list, when numbered paragraphs are used 
> to define the list items.
> 
> Regards, Oliver.
> 
> Florian Reuter wrote:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> I did include the "continue-numbering" on every par 'cause I couldn't find a consensus with Oliver what the default
>> value is.
>> Thomas had this concern of always repeating "continue-numbering" too.
>>
>> I updated my samples and set the default of continue-numbering to "true" (to which Oliver disagrees :-))
>>
>> Attached is the updated sample doc.
>>
>> ~Florian
>>
>>
>>>>> David Faure <faure@kde.org> 03/12/07 4:37 PM >>>
>> On Tuesday 06 March 2007, Florian Reuter wrote:
>>> I also included some "normative examples" for ODF1.1 lists to avoild from misunderstandings of how lists currently
>> work.
>>> ~Florian
>>> numlistpar.odt
>> Why do those examples specify text:continue-numbering for every numbered-paragraph?
>> It seems to me that samples 1 and 2 don't need it at all.
>>
>> And in sample 1 isn't it a typo that its value is false/false/true?
>> I don't understand why such a simple example needs continue-numbering to be set at all,
>> and even less why it would have a different value for those paragraphs.
>>
> 
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