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Subject: Re: [office] OpenDocument TC coordination call minutes 2007-06-25
Hi Florian, it's me who sets up the agenda but not Lars, but I will put this item on the agenda for Monday. Best regards Michael Florian Reuter wrote: > Hi Lars, > > would you please add "clarification of the ODF 1.2" timeline to the agenda for the next meeting. > > I'm totally uncertain what the key dates are. > > Thanks, > > ~Florian > > >>>> Lars Oppermann <Lars.Oppermann@Sun.COM> 06/27/07 12:18 PM >>> > * roll call > > Robert Weir, IBM > Yue Ma, IBM > Helen Yue, IBM > Hironobu Takagi, IBM > Pete Brunet, IBM > Patrick Durusau > David A. Wheeler > David Faure, KDE > Michael Brauer, Sun Microsystems > Eike Rathke, Sun Microsystems > Lars Oppermann, Sun Microsystems > Svante Schubert, Sun Microsystems > Oliver Wittmann, Sun Microsystems > Gary Edwards, OpenDocument Foundation > > * previous Minutes (2 weeks ago) > The attending TC members unanimously accepted the minutes from the last > coordination-call. > > * action items > - metadata review, continue until end of this week > - metadata SC, post examples, done > > * general TC status update > no news > > * SC updates... > * Formula SC (DavidW) > Document with hiding is done. > Doing some cleanups, some semantics were in the test cases that had to > be hidden and we are working on moving those to the specification text. > Posted new version (last week). > Addressed all comments so far > Rob: I have found some support for yearfrac function, will contact you > off-line > > * A11Y (Pete) > Subtables deprecation > We discussed whether it is only used for merging/splitting > Blind person can't see table structure > when focus moves from cell-to-cell > cell address is tracked by A11Y tooling (screen reader) > with subtables cell addressing looses the context > very confusing (often occurs in headers) > Hence, sub tables were removed > Others said that sub tables might be needed for other scenarios > We want to understand what those cases are > Michael: currently nested tables are still allowed. the is-subtable > attribute was used for merging the tables in order to simulate split/join > Hironobu: yes, as long as there is really a table in a table it's ok > David: but in order to correctly represent some html or xsl-fo and maybe > docbook documents, we need to be able to specify a nested table so that > it is merged with the surrounding table > Lars: this should be defined with the table style, not as an attribute > on the table-attribute > Michael: so we deprecate it for merging/splitting and create two action > items: > - collect use cases subtable attributes -> David, Oliver > - check whether we need formatting attributes in order to merge nested > tables with surrounding tables (how is this done in CSS / FO) -> Lars > (in 2 weeks) > > * Metadata (Svante) > Examples posted last Friday > Examples are not part of formal specification but will be provided as > supporting documentation. > Michael: should we add an action item to review the Example > Svante: yes please > ACTION: review metadata example, post comments -> all > > * Proposals > Citation field - addressed as part of metadata proposal, this proposal > is withdrawn > > Integer/Floating point -> Michael, follow up > > Chart-Label position -> DavidF following up > > Table-Filter Condition > Eike: there was discussion whether this should be an element ot an > attribute > Lars: it should be an attribute because it is not part of the document > rendition > - no objection > RESOLVED > > writing-mode/bidirectional text > - no objection > RESOLVED > > allow glue-point for 3d objects > - no objection > RESOLVED > > anim:audio timing attributes > - no objection > RESOLVED > > call ends > > * New Action Items > All: review metadata example > DavidW, Oliver: collect use cases for nested tables that get "merged" > with surrounding table. > Lars: research if/how merged tables are handled in HTML and XSL-FO > DavidF: follow up on chart-label auto-position > Michael: follow up on integer/float issue in svg attributes > > -- Michael Brauer, Technical Architect Software Engineering StarOffice/OpenOffice.org Sun Microsystems GmbH Nagelsweg 55 D-20097 Hamburg, Germany michael.brauer@sun.com http://sun.com/staroffice +49 40 23646 500 http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS Sitz der Gesellschaft: Sun Microsystems GmbH, Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Amtsgericht Muenchen: HRB 161028 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Marcel Schneider, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Boemer Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Haering
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