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Subject: Re: [office] auto-play presentation file format like PPS


Hi Ming Fei

I think the way you have formulated it below is good.  I believe the attribute will be a binary one (unless anyone else can think of a 3rd mode for opening a file).

Presumably the attribute would be set somehow in the 'save' or 'properties' dialog in an application setting.
 
Regards
Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ming Fei Jia" <jiamingf@cn.ibm.com>
To: "Bob Jolliffe" <bobj@dst.gov.za>
Cc: office@lists.oasis-open.org
Sent: 22 March 2008 01:31:56 PM
Subject: Re: [office] auto-play presentation file format like PPS



Thanks Bob, we can define the schema in 2.2.3 Presentation Documents(ODF 1.2 draft 6). 
The original definition is: 

<define name="office-body-content" combine="choice"> 
<element name="office:presentation"> 
<ref name="office-presentation-attlist"/> 
<ref name="office-presentation-content-prelude"/> 
<ref name="office-presentation-content-main"/> 
<ref name="office-presentation-content-epilogue"/> 
</element> 
</define> 

<define name="office-presentation-attlist"> 
<empty/> 
</define> 

To support presentation auto-play choice, add the attribute "presentation:auto-play" to the element "office-presentation-attlist" as below: 

<define name="office-presentation-attlist"> 
<optional> 
<attribute name="presentation:auto-play" a:defaultValue="false"> 
<ref name="boolean"/> 
</attribute> 
</optional> 
</define> 

The description can be: The attribute "presentation:auto-play" specifies applications will open the presentation file directly from the operating system shell with auto-play slide mode or edit mode . 

The "directly from the operating system shell" means this attribute only works for the scenarios like user double-click the file or select-enter the file from Explorer in Windows or other OS shell. The purpose of adding this restriction is for that applications can open the presentation file with "edit" mode by selecting "File->Open" menu explictly although the "presentation:auto-play" is true. Welcome anyone suggests a good description for this meaning. 

Also, if the open mode number is more than 2 (play and edit), we can define a value set to choose in XML schema. Currently I don't know any other open mode. 


Mingfei Jia(贾明飞) 
IBM Lotus Symphony Development 
IBM China Software Development LAB, Beijing 
Tel: 86-10-82782244-2493 Fax: 86-10-62982924 
NOTES:Ming Fei Jia/China/IBM E-mail: jiamingf@cn.ibm.com 
Address: 4/F, DeShi Building No.9, East Road, ShangDi, Haidian District, Beijing 100085, PRC 
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Re: [office] auto-play presentation file format like PPS 
Bob Jolliffe 	
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2008-03-17 21:36 
Please respond to Bob Jolliffe <bobj@dst.gov.za> 	




I think Rob's suggestion of a flag in the XML ( along the lines of onOpen="Play"|"Edit" ) makes sense on this. 

Regards 
Bob 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "robert weir" <robert_weir@us.ibm.com> 
To: "Ming Fei Jia" <jiamingf@cn.ibm.com> 
Cc: office@lists.oasis-open.org 
Sent: 17 March 2008 03:15:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [office] auto-play presentation file format like PPS 


Hi Mingfei, 

I think a PPS file is identical to a PPT file inside. The only difference is in the file extension. This tells the application to run PowerPoint directly in play mode rather than edit mode. 

If we want to have the same behavior we could do this as a file extension, or as a boolean flag in the document. 

Looking at Microsoft support notes like : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326736 it appears that their file extension approach has caused Microsoft some problems. 

So I wonder if a flag in the XML would be a better solution? 

-Rob 



Ming Fei Jia <jiamingf@cn.ibm.com> 

03/17/2008 05:47 AM 
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Subject [office] auto-play presentation file format like PPS 




Dear TC members, 

I can not find the definition in ODF 1.2 draft 6 about auto-play presentation file format,just like Microsoft PPS format. If we really have not defined it yet, I propose to define it in ODF 1.2 since the requirement of presentation auto-play is obvious for many users. We need to discuss the feasiblity and the solution in this loop. The contents can be: 
(1) The extension name of auto-play presentation file format, e.g. ODPP or anything that makes sense; 
(2) The auto-play presentation file wraps .odp file as an auto-play file when user double-click on the file; 
(3) XML schema definition for the auto-play presentation file if any; 
(4) Explanation for the implementation in vendor products. 
...... 

Welcome any comments! 


Best Regards, 

Mingfei Jia(贾明飞) 
IBM Lotus Symphony Development 
IBM China Software Development LAB, Beijing 
Tel: 86-10-82782244-2493 Fax: 86-10-62982924 
NOTES:Ming Fei Jia/China/IBM E-mail: jiamingf@cn.ibm.com 
Address: 4/F, DeShi Building No.9, East Road, ShangDi, Haidian District, Beijing 100085, PRC 

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