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Subject: Re: [office] Please put this discussion


Hi Bruce,

> OK, but "mark parts" to do what with them? To control data entry?
Depends. I've seen scripts doing at lot of things with the marked data ;-) Not really sure what your point is...

> I'm just unclear on what the distinction is between this field you are proposing and text:meta-field.

Hmm --- I see a clear difference between an RDF-based framework for metadata and "special" bookmarks.  I guess when developing apps like Zotero developers will choose the RDF-based metadata framework. On the other hand when migrating OOXML and scripts to ODF they will use field-marks.

> So how would we -- or third-party devs -- know which one to use for which cases?
I think that the whole metadata framework speaks for itself and developers will use it when we make it powerfull and easy to use. 
The main purpose of the field-mark is to get rid of the bookmark/WW-field mess we have out there... They are not even 0.000001% as powerfull as the RDF-based metadata framework ;-) [However they have their charm in easy migration!]

~Florian


>>> "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com> 05/05/08 7:42 PM >>>
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Florian Reuter <freuter@novell.com> wrote:
> Hi Bruce,
>
>  nah --- its a bigger scope this time than the nested-field discussion we had before.

OK.

>  OOXML-like fields as well as bookmarks are used by developers to mark parts of the document. My proposal is trying to give them a "clean" way of doing this.
>

OK, but "mark parts" to do what with them? To control data entry?

>  So field-marks are fo bookmarks which are controlled by scripts.  (Since OOXML-fields can be seen as special bookmarks they are also covered by bookmarks.)
>
>  A lot of developers today are using ODF-bookmarks too to mark parts of a document. They would benefit from field-marks too.

Yes, there's an obvious problem when developers feel the need to use
bookmarks to do some of this stuff. I'm just unclear on what the
distinction is between this field you are proposing and
text:meta-field. For example, I hope/expect that citations (which
Zotero typically uses bookmarks to implement in OOo) will be
implemented using text:meta-field. So how would we -- or third-party
devs -- know which one to use for which cases?

Bruce

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