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Subject: Re: [office] vertical rel/pos
Hi Florian, Florian Reuter wrote: > I'd propose the following amendment to the proposal [http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/extension_of_vertical_relation_values_for_certain_anchor_types] which are best practice in other formats: > 1. We should follow the CSS rules [http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/CR-CSS21-20070719/syndata.html#parsing-errors] for invalid arguments. This means that the attribute style:vertical-rel should be treated as if it was not there if they have invalid values. > 2. If the style:vertical-rel attribute is not there then the absolute positioning style:vertical-pos should be taken into account. > 3. If a relative as well as an absolute positioning is present, then the relative positioning takes precedence over the absolute positioning. > 4. We should add the same mechanism for horizontal positioning. > ad 1. Can you please define more precise, when the value of style:vertical-rel is invalid in your opinion? Do you mean the value of style:vertical-rel is invalid, when its value is not one of the ones we have defined? In this case I have no problem in supporting your request in applying the CSS rules you have mentioned. Do you also mean that the value of style:vertical-rel is invalid, when it corresponds to one of the defined ones, but in combination of the value of property text:anchor-type forms a disallowed combination? In my honest opinion this case is not covered by the above mentioned CSS rules. But, I think we can define that in this case style:vertical-pos should also be treated as it is not existing. ad 2. and 3. I think you have misunderstood the ODF specification. The vertical position of an anchored object is specified by style:vertical-pos _and_ style:vertical-rel. The combination of these two properties together with svg:y, when value of style:vertical-pos equals "from-top", specifies the vertical position. Thus, I can not support your amendments 2 and 3. Instead I can think we can define the following: If style:vertical-rel has to be treated as it is not existing to the to be clarified amendment 1, a value corresponding to the text:anchor-type could be taken: text:anchor-type taken value for not existing style:vertical-rel page page frame frame paragraph paragraph char char as-char char Florian, what do you think about this? ad 4. For the horizontal positioning I can support something similar as your amendment 1 for vertical positioning. But, please provide the concrete wording, especially defining, what should be meant by invalid. As for the vertical positioning I can not support something similar for horizontal positioning according your amendments 2 and 3. Thus currently, I can not support any of your made amendments in its actual form. For amendment 1 I need more information to support them. I am sure that for your amendment 1 we have the same understanding. But, my questions/requests regarding it have the purpose to assure that this is really the case. Amendment 2 and 3 are not valid in my opinion, because these would change the current understanding of style:vertical-pos and style:vertical-rel. I can not support amendment 4 corresponding to my concerns made for 1, 2 and 3. Best regards, Oliver. -- ======================================================================= Sun Microsystems GmbH Oliver-Rainer Wittmann Nagelsweg 55 Software Engineer - OpenOffice.org/StarOffice 20097 Hamburg Germany Fax: (+49 40) 23 646 550 http://www.sun.de mailto:oliver-rainer.wittmann@sun.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Sitz der Gesellschaft: Sun Microsystems GmbH, Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Amtsgericht Muenchen: HRB 161028 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Thomas Schroeder, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Boemer Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Haering ======================================================================= Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (od) - OpenOffice.org Writer OpenOffice.org Engineering at Sun: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS
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