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Subject: Re: [office] Drawing page names (Re: [office] OpenDocument TC MeetingMinutes 2006-02-13)
Dear TC members, below proposal is one of the last two which I have not integrated into the ODF 1.2 specification part 1 so far (there are a few more that I did not integrate, but these are changes to part 3). The proposal was to add <svg:desc> and <svg:title> to <draw:page> and <table:table>. For draw:page everything is fine and I did integrate this already. But for <table:table> I have the concerns that I stated below. I did therefore suggest a slightly different solution for <table:table>, but never tried to get a decision on this. The questions now are? Do we need title and description for <table:table>, as Malte suggested below? If yes, shall we use <svg:desc> anc <svg:title>, or follow an alternative approach using attributes? Opinions on this are welcome. Best regards Michael On 11/22/07 10:09, Michael Brauer wrote: > Hi, > > while integrating this proposal into the specification, I noticed that > it would cause an inconsistency for tables: > > Tables are not per se graphical objects, so it seems a little bit > uncommon to add svg elements to them. We had a similar situation for > hyperlinks, where we use an "office:title" attribute instead. I > therefore suggest that we reuse the office:title attribute for tables, > and add an office:desc attribute, too. > > I further suggest that specify that the two attributes are ignored, if > the table element is a child of an draw:frame element, because in this > situation, the frame itself has a title and a description. > > The inconsistency does not effect the drawing pages. > > Michael > > > > > Malte Timmermann wrote: >> Makes sense for me. >> >> Matches well with what we have for shapes, and the mapping for >> Accessibility API. >> >> BTW - I propose to have the same for sheets in a spreadsheet: >> - Same features for Accessible Name/Description >> - Sheet names have much more restrictions because of macro access, so >> via the Title people can give them names they otherwise can't. >> >> Malte. >> >> Michael Brauer - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg wrote, On 10/26/07 14:11: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have discussed the results of our discussion in the last TC call >>> with Christian. He suggests that we adapt solution B (the >>> draw:display-name) a little, and add <svg:title> and >>> <svg:description> elements instead of a "draw:display-name" >>> attribute. That is, the draw:name attribute would stay unique, but >>> the <svg:title> element could be used to add a non-unique name or >>> title to the page. The two elements <svg:title> and >>> <svg:description> exist for shapes already. The solution therefore >>> would be consistent with shapes >>> -- Michael Brauer, Technical Architect Software Engineering StarOffice/OpenOffice.org Sun Microsystems GmbH Nagelsweg 55 D-20097 Hamburg, Germany michael.brauer@sun.com http://sun.com/staroffice +49 40 23646 500 http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS Sitz der Gesellschaft: Sun Microsystems GmbH, Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Amtsgericht Muenchen: HRB 161028 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Thomas Schroeder, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Boemer Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Haering
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