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Subject: Re: [office] ODF 1.2 cd 01 - separation of attributes of namespacestyle in chapter 18 and 19
Hi Patrick, Michael has already told me the separation criteria. I want to give my view on it in order to more or less start a discussion about how we should separate the attributes. But, you are right. For the moment we need a clear separation criteria and can revisit it in our next ODF version - I am fine with that. Please assure for ODF 1.2 in case that an attribute occurs in both chapters, that the text content is not simply the same ;-) Best regards, Oliver. Patrick Durusau wrote: > Oliver, > > The criteria used to separate the attributes into chapters 18 or 19 was: > > Does the attribute appear on a <style:*-properties> element? > > If the answer is yes, then the attribute appears in chapter 19. > > If the answer is no, then the attribute appears in chapter 18. > > For those that appear in both, you will note that the attributes appear > both on <style:*-properties> and on other elements as well. > > I wanted to preserve that fact for the time being. > > I don't necessarily disagree with your assessment but do note that > style:style and style:style-name reference styles, so in what sense > would you say they are "formatting" properties? > > Would you argue that we should use a definition of "formatting" property > to be one that specifies some aspect of presentation and that is not a > reference to a style? > > Take 18.502 style:num-format for instance. It is an attribute on > <text:list-level-style-number>, which is itself a child of > <text:list-style>, which specifies and provides a name for referencing a > list style. > > Of course you can reply by pointing to the appearance of this attribute > on <text:word-count> where it clearly isn't used as part of a style, > although it does affect the presentation of information. > > My personal suspicion is that we haven't been completely consistent in > separating all formatting to be applied via styles as distinct from > structure. That is actually quite difficult and any division of > formatting versus structure represents a series of choices that > determine other choices. We may want to revisit some of those choices > for ODF-Next but at this point I suspect we need to settle for a basis > on which we can articulate the current division. > -- ======================================================================= Sun Microsystems GmbH Oliver-Rainer Wittmann Nagelsweg 55 Software Engineer - OpenOffice.org/StarOffice 20097 Hamburg Germany Fax: (+49 40) 23 646 955 http://www.sun.de mailto:oliver-rainer.wittmann@sun.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Sitz der Gesellschaft: Sun Microsystems GmbH, Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Amtsgericht Muenchen: HRB 161028 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Thomas Schroeder, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Boemer Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Haering ======================================================================= Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (od) - OpenOffice.org Writer OpenOffice.org Engineering at Sun: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS
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