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Subject: RE: [office] Proposal for Handling (some) NEEDS DISCUSSION issues
How can we easily find all of these issues? ________________________________________ From: Michael Brauer [michael.brauer@oracle.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 5:16 AM To: OpenDocument Mailing List Subject: [office] Proposal for Handling (some) NEEDS DISCUSSION issues Hi, as of today, we have 36 issues flagged on NEEDS DISCUSSION. That's an impressive number of issues to discuss individually in TC calls, so the question is whether we can maybe simplify the rules around NEEDS DISCUSSION issues so that we can concentrate us in the TC calls on the discussion of a few of them. If we look deeper into the issues, we find that many of the issues have a resolution entered, but have been set on NEEDS DISCUSSION only to check with the TC if the resolution is acceptable. These issues actually don't need a discussion, but an explicit conformation, that is, a simple ballot. We further have some issues where proposals have been added, but where different opinions seem to exist whether the proposals are sufficient to resolve the issues or not. In that case, it may also be helpful for both (those who consider the proposal to be sufficient and those who don't) to have a ballot on the proposed resolution to check what the majority of TC members think about an issue. And we have a few issues where it is discussed whether there is an issue at all, or whether the issue is within the scope of ODF 1.2. For these issues it may also be helpful to check what the majority of TC members think about an issue. We could do that by a ballot that request confirmation for a resolution "invalid", "no action", or "defer". So what I would like to propose for these kind of issues is: 1. TC members can request a conformation-ballot for a NEEDS DISCUSSION issue by end of Thursday before each meeting on the mailing list. This request should contain the resolution in the e-mail to make the request robust against changes of the JIRA issue. The resolution includes the options "no action", "invalid" or "defer". In any case, only ballots that contain a specific resolution that is applicable to the specification text, or whose resolution is "no action", "invalid" or "defer" will be accepted. 2. The ballot will be set on the agenda of the next TC call. In the TC call, only a ballot will be conducted, but no further discussions shall take place (in the context of the ballot - of course the issue may reappear as discussion item if the ballot gets no majority). 3. If the ballot gets a simple majority, the issue will be considered as resolved. 4. Independent of the results of ballot, follow-up proposals may be submitted for the same issue, or the resolutions may be overruled by resolutions of other issues. A few more remarks: I'm not proposing that we use above process for all NEEDS-DISCUSSION issues, but only that we use the instrument of ballots to identify if further discussions are actually needed or to figure out where the TC stands on particular issues. And I'm further not proposing that if a resolution has been approved that way that it cannot changed anymore. If a proposal for a resolution is acceptable for the majority of the TC, and someone finds a resolution that is acceptable to even more TC members, we of course should take that. However, the process needs to be constructive and directed towards the resolution of issues. That's why for in case of issues where it is unclear whether something is an issue, the question is whether a resolution of "no action" is acceptable and is not whether the issue needs further discussions. Best regards Michael -- Michael Brauer | Oracle Office Development Phone: +49 40 23646 500 Oracle Office GBU ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG | Nagelsweg 55 | 20097 Hamburg ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 München Registergericht: Amtsgericht München, HRA 95603 Komplementärin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V. Rijnzathe 6, 3454PV De Meern, Niederlande Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697 Geschäftsführer: Jürgen Kunz, Marcel van de Molen, Alexander van der Ven --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php
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