[OASIS Issue Tracker] Commented: (OFFICE-3356) Public Comment:Please standardize "Line Start Prohibition Rule"

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Andreas Guelzow  commented on OFFICE-3356:
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I really don't know what you mean with "It would be interesting to know what consumers do with such codes now. " There are no "codes' used for layout.

If A1 contains text (a sequence of Unicode code points) it is stored in a <text:p> element. Note that there is _no_ layout information that is inserted in that string. Some sequences of specific Unicode code points are represented by xml elements by for them there is a straight forward translation.
Then A2 might contain the formula =LEN([.A1]) and so LEN has as its argument the sequence of Unicode code points that are in A1. 

So if you want to store any layout information in A1 by inserting Unicode code points, then you are affecting the possible value evaluated in A2.

What I am trying to point out is that we cannot use "provisions that already exist in Unicode" to solve the line end prohibition issue at hand since we cannot modify the sequences of Unicode code points stored without it affecting OpenFormula (and other) formulas. Am implementation does not have the option of using Unicode code points to affect layout. (Users may have that ability by inserting appropriate code points.)



> Public Comment: Please standardize "Line Start Prohibition Rule"
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFFICE-3356
>                 URL: http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/OFFICE-3356
>             Project: OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) TC
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: Needs Discussion, Public Review, Text
>    Affects Versions: ODF 1.2 CD 05
>            Reporter: Robert Weir 
>            Priority: Blocker
>             Fix For: ODF 1.2 CD 06
>
>
> Copied from office-comment list
> Original author: "MURATA Makoto (FAMILY Given)" <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp> 
> Original date: 16 Aug 2010 09:49:25 -0000
> Original URL: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-comment/201008/msg00004.html
> Text copied for convenience in searching JIRA (note that Unicode may be garbled):
> """
> Open Office appear to support "line-start prohibition rule", and even
> allows document authors to specify which character is prohibited.
> This rule is considered very important in Japan, China, Taiwan, and
> Korea.
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/NOTE-jlreq-20090604/#en-subheading2_1_7
> If you explicitly specify which character is prohibited, the following
> is generated by OO.o as part of setting.xml.
>       <config:config-item-map-indexed config:name="ForbiddenCharacters">
>         <config:config-item-map-entry>
>           <config:config-item config:name="Language" config:type="string">ja</config:config-item>
>           <config:config-item config:name="Country" config:type="string">JP</config:config-item>
>           <config:config-item config:name="Variant" config:type="string"/>
>           <config:config-item config:name="BeginLine" config:type="string"
>             >!%),.:;?]}¢°’”‰′″℃、。ã€...〉》」』ã€'〕ぁぃã...ぇぉっゃã‚...ょゎ゛゜ゝゞァィゥェォッャュョヮヵヶ・ーヽヾ！ï¼...），．：；？］｝｡｣､･ｧｨｩｪｫｬｭｮｯｰﾞﾟ¢</config:config-item>
>           <config:config-item config:name="EndLine" config:type="string"
>             >$([Â¥{£¥‘“〈《「『【ã€"＄（［｛｢£￥</config:config-item>
>         </config:config-item-map-entry>
> However, their semantics is not at all described in ODF 1.0.  It is not 
> described in the current draft of ODF 1.2 either.  Please standardize
> them.  Otherwise, ODF 1.2 does not contribute to interoperability 
> of Japanese text.
> """

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