Re: [office] Continued Lists

[Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <ORWITT@de.ibm.com>]

Hi,

sorry for the late response and that I did not fullfill my promise - the
last days were quite busy.

May be you should have a look at the proposal text which brought attribute
text:continue-list into ODF 1.2 [1]
Here is a quote from this proposal text regarding attribute
text:continue-list:
<quote>
The purpose of these new attributes is to continue the numbering of an
arbitrary preceding list regardless of the applied list styles. It also
ensures that lists in <text:numbered-paragraph> representation can also
better be modeled in the <text:list> representation.
These new attributes should be optional and are only valid for top-level
<text:list> elements. It should be used in favor of the existing
text:continue-numbering attribute that has the limitations described below.
</quote>

What is missing in the specification is that text:continue-list is only
valid for top-level <text:list> elements. This was in the proposal text,
but somehow got lost.

What is also missing is that the attribute text:continue-list shall only
refer a top-level <text:list> element. The proposed attribute text:id was
replace by xml:id, but somehow the previously mentioned wording got lost.

Thus, this attribute shall only connect to top-level <text:list> elements
together in order to form more or less one list. With is esp. used, when a
list is spread through certain table cells.

Another important reason for this attribute and the corresponding xml:id
was to clarify the transformation between the alternative approaches to
represent lists in ODF - <text:list> together with <text:list-item> vs.
<text:numbered-paragraph>

For <text:numbered-paragraph> mandatory attribute <text:list-id> has been
proposed and integrated into ODF 1.2.


[1]
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/23418/07-04-05-proposal-lists.odt
 found on proposal list in our wiki [2]
[2] http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/List_of_Proposals


Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards
Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

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From:	Svante Schubert <svante.schubert@gmail.com>
To:	office@lists.oasis-open.org
Date:	29.02.2012 14:47
Subject:	[office] Continued Lists
Sent by:	<office@lists.oasis-open.org>



I got a question in regard of the @text:continue-list attribute:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part1.html#attribute-text_continue-list


It is obvious that this attribute connects two (or more) lists elements
within a document, where the following list has the @text:continue-list
attribute referencing to the previous list.
From my understanding those lists are not equal to one list, which embeds
all the in between content, because:
   1.	The ODF 1.2 schema only allows paragraphs, headings, soft-page breaks
      and (nested) lists within a list. The in between content may be
      arbitrary.
   2.	The usual indent of list content is likely not to apply to the in
      between content (unspecified - what is the user expectation?)


What puzzles me, is the spec is not precise in regard of
   1.	@text:continue-list only allowing an xml:id of a list, that has the
      same nested/indent level as the referenced list
   2.	What happens if one of both list's list item are increased/decreased
      in list level?


Can someone remember the use case for this feature and/or reference to the
discussion?
Does this feature exists as well in other formats?


Thanks in advance,
Svante