Re: [office] The desirability of xml:id stability

[Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net>]

Andreas,

On 02/04/2013 04:36 PM, Andreas J Guelzow wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 14:30 -0700, Patrick Durusau wrote:
>
> > 3) What I am missing is some evidence, other than your saying it, that
> > preservation of xml:ids is any harder than preserving any other
> > attribute value.
> >
> > I understand implementations don't do the preservation now, but at one
> > time implementations didn't use XML either. Non-use doesn't mean that a
> > proposal is too difficult or unworkable.
> >
> > Being able to reliably point into documents would be the next step
> > towards not simply getting document level pointers from a search engine.
> Patrick, what would be an example of an arbitrary string attribute value
> that is currently being preserved by at least some ODF
> consumer/producers?
Is the "arbitrary" part a requirement?

That is there are plenty of specified attribute values that are 
persisted. See any stylesheet attribute whose value is chosen by a user.

I don't know how that preservation is different from preserving an 
"arbitrary" string?

But to amuse you, consider the <text:user-index-mark> which has the 
attribute: text:string-value. 8.17 and 19.871.6, respectively.

19.871.6 reads: "The text:string-value attribute specifies text to be 
displayed in an index."

So, I created a file, inserted a user defined string in the index, 
created an index that shows the user-defined value.

Please open, edit (somewhere other than my index entry), save and re-open.

Does my arbitrary text still appear?

I would say it was preserved by the application. Yes?

Try it with OpenOffice first, but I suspect the same will be true for 
some other implementations.

Hope you are having a great day!

Patrick
> Andreas

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