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Subject: Re: [office] The desirability of xml:id stability
Andreas, On 02/04/2013 04:36 PM, Andreas J Guelzow wrote:
On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 14:30 -0700, Patrick Durusau wrote:3) What I am missing is some evidence, other than your saying it, that preservation of xml:ids is any harder than preserving any other attribute value. I understand implementations don't do the preservation now, but at one time implementations didn't use XML either. Non-use doesn't mean that a proposal is too difficult or unworkable. Being able to reliably point into documents would be the next step towards not simply getting document level pointers from a search engine.Patrick, what would be an example of an arbitrary string attribute value that is currently being preserved by at least some ODF consumer/producers?
Is the "arbitrary" part a requirement?That is there are plenty of specified attribute values that are persisted. See any stylesheet attribute whose value is chosen by a user.
I don't know how that preservation is different from preserving an "arbitrary" string?
But to amuse you, consider the <text:user-index-mark> which has the attribute: text:string-value. 8.17 and 19.871.6, respectively.
19.871.6 reads: "The text:string-value attribute specifies text to be displayed in an index."
So, I created a file, inserted a user defined string in the index, created an index that shows the user-defined value.
Please open, edit (somewhere other than my index entry), save and re-open. Does my arbitrary text still appear? I would say it was preserved by the application. Yes?Try it with OpenOffice first, but I suspect the same will be true for some other implementations.
Hope you are having a great day! Patrick
Andreas
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