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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Chet, In comments to his post, the ongoing interoperability "fests" are brought to his attention, which he acknowledges not knowing about. On the other hand, he points to some obvious issues: ***** I can imagine some things that could really help ODF take off. A free "ODF lite", for example; so that the smallest app developer could put in useful ODF access capabilities into the smallest app. An ODF implemented as "free" open-source widgets, and small re-usable free-to-use components generally, so that a decent measure of ODF support is a no-brainer wherever it might be appropriate. And, a version of ODF should certainly be accessible via HTML5, because that is where documents, for many of us, are going - onto phones and tablets. One issue, however, is that supporting rich documents is quite complicated. What this really means, is that I see a need for funding of ODF implementation, innovation and interoperability testing, driven by a genuine longterm vision for ODF, and which is not tied to a particular vendor, even if a vendor supplies some of the resources needed. Unfortunately, in the short term, there is little incentive for anyone to fund any of this - SUN used to support Open Office and IBM used to actively promote ODF, but SUN is no more and IBM seems to have lost active interest. What we have, a defacto standardisation around MS Office formats, works well enough, although with some risk - and Office can probably read ODF documents well enough to save them as MS formats, if necessary. There are long term costs and risks assciated with being tied into a "standard" owned by a single vendor - I see this as a governance issue - but (these days especially), short trerm considerations usually win out. ***** Governments seem to labor under the mis-impression that open source means saving budget dollars. Or at least that it one explanation for why some governments support ODF in word by not in deed (as in funding). Another factor, which I hope to see addressed in ODF 2.0, is the lack of features users expect from MS Office. Since I can out perform MS Office with LaTeX it seems a bit lame to tell users ODF should have less features than MS Office. Not to mention that secondary processing of ODF XML is far easier than the nightmare used, ahem, by some vendors. But easier to use XML isn't a selling point for users. Adoption is driven by features that you can't get somewhere else. Hope you are having a great day! Patrick On 11/19/2015 08:57 AM, Chet Ensign wrote: > Members of the OpenDoc TC, > > You may want to take a look at this blog post about the state of > interoperability with regards to ODF. He specifically notes that > the OIC TC is closed and says that he doesn't see much of a future > for interoperability considerations. > > Best, > > /chet > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Google Alerts* > <googlealerts-noreply@google.com > <mailto:googlealerts-noreply@google.com>> Date: Thu, Nov 19, 2015 > at 6:00 AM Subject: Google Alert - "oasis open" To: > chet.ensign@oasis-open.org <mailto:chet.ensign@oasis-open.org> > > > Google > <https://www.google.com/alerts?source=alertsmail&hl=en&gl=US&msgid=MTQ 1NjIyNjMwMzk5NzI0NTY1NTg> > > "oasis open" Daily update ⋅ November 19, 2015 NEWS ODF - the > state of play - The future of ODF under OASIS, now that the... > <https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://www.it-director.com/ blogs/the-norfolk-punt/2015/11/odf-the-state-of-play-the-future-of-odf-u nder-oasis-now-that-the-standards-war-is-won/&ct=ga&cd=CAEYACoUMTQ1NjIyN jMwMzk5NzI0NTY1NTgyGjEyYTZiODZhMjUxY2RjNmY6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNGAea9m BbVfV3arBLcmMEwOgCmDmg> > > IT-Director.com (blog) I note that there is a *OASIS Open* > Document Format Interoperability and Conformance (OIC) Technical > Committee - but that is no longer active. 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