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Subject: ODF Teleconference chat log - 19 Feb. 2018


Greetings!

Our chat log from the ODF teleconference on 19 Feb. 2018.

Hope everyone is at the start of a great week!

Patrick

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Patrick: 1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights

2. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda

3. Motion (simple majority): Notice of minutes from prior TC calls - pending

4. Meeting time for 2017-02-19 - https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2018&month=2&day=19&hour=17&min=0&sec=0&p1=25&p2=37

5. Issues for Feb. 19, 2018:

a. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3848 Error in matrix description in 19.107 dr3d:transform

b. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3847 Simplify Line Height handling

c. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3846 Use @text:relative-tab-stop-position as well for style:tabs-stops instead of using settings.xml flag

d. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3845 Unclear if tabulator positions are being inherited among styles 

6. Next meeting: 2018-02-26

7.  Adjournment
Patrick: Andreas, are you calling back in?
Andreas J Guelzow: yes...
Patrick: quorum!
Patrick: Thanks to Regina for the update on Office-3854, will take up when completed
Patrick: agenda is approved
Patrick: Mark as resolved - unanimous
Patrick: Jos has previously suggested adding order of evaluation for line height in ODF, which is affected by property-fo_line-height
property-style_line-height-at-least
property-style_line-spacing
property-style_font-independent-line-spacing
Patrick: Jos says line-height and at-least can be used together - should not be exclusive
Patrick: if line-height less than at-least - the at-least value controls
Jos van den Oever: The style:line-height-at-least attribute specifies a minimum line height.
Jos van den Oever: 20.309 style:line-height-at-least
Patrick: line-height - font size - sets line spacing
Patrick: In CSS, is line-height a measure above and below, it can use font size to calculate that space?
Patrick: In other words, the line starts at the top of the font and extends upwards or downwards
Jos van den Oever: I do not grasp all of the font metrics in css. Here's an explanation what claims that line-height is *not* the distance between baselines. https://iamvdo.me/en/blog/css-font-metrics-line-height-and-vertical-align
Patrick: line space is the same as leading (great graphic Regina)
Patrick: In surfing around, I also found: (https://css-tricks.com/almanac/properties/l/line-height/) The line-height property defines the amount of space above and below inline elements. That is, elements that are set to display: inline or display: inline-block. This property is most often used to set the leading for lines of text.
Patrick: Regina, need more time to look at LO and at typography -
Patrick: defer on Office-3847
Patrick: Michael - agree on document scope attribute but how to make it one?
Patrick: Michael, one option - add as attribute on office:text element -
Patrick: Regina, may be needed in office-presentation too. - consider for next week
Patrick: Adjourned

-- 
Patrick Durusau
patrick@durusau.net
Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB)
Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

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