Re: [oic] Re: http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN-216 - 15-dayReview Request for The State of ODF Interoperability Version 1.0 CommitteeDraft 05

[robert_weir@us.ibm.com]

Well, I certainly appreciate the need to prevent someone from being 
confused about where to not find the normative references we don't have. 
After all, IBM invented the phrase "This page intentionally left blank" in 
our printed documentation.

What is the level of granularity we need on the revision history?  Every 
CD?  Or just public review drafts?

-Rob

Mary McRae <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> wrote on 08/12/2010 04:33:49 PM:

> 
> Hi Rob,
> 
> If this is a second review, then why is there no revision history? 
> It is - I'm guessing at least - different than the version submitted
> previously; otherwise it wouldn't be a second review. 
> 
> As far as the references section goes, yes - our fault for not 
> catching it previously, but that doesn't mean that we should let 
> specifications progress without resolving any previously-uncaught 
> errors. While it may not seem important since there aren't any, our 
> goal is for all OASIS specifications to have a consistent look and 
> feel; anyone using those standards should feel comfortable knowing 
> that certain information will be consistently located no matter 
> which TC is producing the work. 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> On Aug 12, 2010, at 4:16 PM, robert_weir@us.ibm.com wrote:
> 
> > Hi Kim,
> > 
> > This is the first version of this document, so there is no revision 
> > history.  But I suppose we could just say "1.0 initial version" and 
that 
> > might make some people happy.
> > 
> > And as our conformance clause says, there are no normative clauses or 
> > references in this document.  But I suppose we could add an section 
that 
> > says "There are no normative references" and that would make some 
people 
> > happy.
> > 
> > Or maybe not.  It would certainly delay this going out for its 2nd 
public 
> > review by another month.  That is for certain.
> > 
> > But I think the bigger point is this:  We already submitted this 
document 
> > for quality check and it was approved.  It went out for public review. 
 We 
> > addressed the comments received.  And now we're being given new 
quality 
> > check items that were not raised by OASIS originally, nor were 
received 
> > via public comments.  This is not good.
> > 
> > I think we need to acknowledge that the quality check done by TC 
Admins 
> > will be imperfect, but there needs to be some cut-off point where we 
say, 
> > "You had your chance, now it is time to move on".  Otherwise, what are 
you 
> > going to do?  Review a Committee Specification and decide that we're 
not 
> > following the latest template and send it back to a CD?  That would be 

> > ridiculous.   The TC needs some certainty that once it has passed 
quality 
> > check that it is safe to go forward, unless there are regressions 
> > introduced by the TC. 
> > 
> > -Rob
> > 
> > Kim Goolsby <kim.goolsby@oasis-open.org> wrote on 08/12/2010 03:27:00 
PM:
> > 
> >> 
> >> Hi all,
> >> 
> >> Please excuse my error below. I did not realize that a change-marked
> >> copy was required for a 15-day review. Now I do.
> >> 
> >> Best,
> >> Kim
> > 
> >> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Kim Goolsby 
<kim.goolsby@oasis-open.org
> >>> wrote:
> >> Please make the following changes to this document:
> >> 
> >> 1. Please make sure 'View Changes' is turned off before submitting 
> >> the document.
> >> 
> >> 2. Please add Appendix B. Revision History to the end of the spec.
> >> 
> >> 3. Please add sections for 'Normative' and 'Non-Normative 
> >> References' per the template.
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> Kim
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Kim Goolsby
> >> Publications Specialist
> >> OASIS Open: Advancing open standards for the information society
> >> email: kim.goolsby@oasis-open.org 
> >> web: www.oasis-open.org
> >> phone: 1.734.223.6890
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Kim Goolsby
> >> Publications Specialist
> >> OASIS Open: Advancing open standards for the information society
> >> email: kim.goolsby@oasis-open.org 
> >> web: www.oasis-open.org
> >> phone: 1.734.223.6890
> > 
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