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Subject: OIC TC 2010-09-22 Meeting Minutes
OIC COORDINATION CALL
Date: Wednesday 22 September 2010
Time: 13:30 - 14:30 UT
1. LOGISTICS
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The chat room: <http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oic>
(doesn't count for attendance)
The call-in numbers: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/200903/msg00017.html>
Meeting agendas also provide the pass codes and the call-in numbers:
< http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201009/msg00010.html >
The action items (log-in required):
<http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/members/action_items.php>
1.1 ROLL CALL AND QUORUM CHECK
8 of 9 Voting members attended, satisfying the 5 of 9 requirement for a quorum.
MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE
* Bart Hanssens, Fedict (Chair)
* Don Harbison, IBM
* Mingfei Jia, IBM
* Robert Weir, IBM
* Andreas Guelzow, Individual
* Dennis Hamilton, Individual (Secretary)
* Cherie Ekholm, Microsoft
Andrew Rist, Oracle
* Louis Suarez-Potts, Oracle Corporation
[* = Voting Member at start of meeting (8)
+ = becoming Voting Member at conclusion of meeting (0)
= = Persistent Non-Voting Member (0)]
MEMBERS ABSENT
Charles Schulz, Ars Aperta
Alex Wang, Beijing Sursen International
Jeremy Allison, Google Inc.
Peter Junge, Individual
Thorsten Zachmann, Individual
Doug Mahugh, Microsoft
Eric Patterson, Microsoft
Alan Clark, Novell
= Michael Brauer, Oracle Corporation
* Bernd Eilers, Oracle Corporation
Daniel Rentz, Oracle Corporation
= Svante Schubert, Oracle Corporation
Tom Rabon, Red Hat
Jerry Smith, US Department of Defense
[* = Voting Member at start and end of meeting (1)
- = Voting Member becoming non-voting Member at end of meeting (0)
= = Persistent Non-Voting Member (2)]
1.2 ACCEPTANCE OF PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES
Minutes for the 2010-09-08 Meeting, approved without objection
<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201009/msg00009.html>
1.3 ACCEPTANCE OF TODAY'S AGENDA: approved without objection
<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201009/msg00010.html>
2. STATUS OF ACTION ITEMS
#0015 Template Scenarios. No progress.
#0026 Test Scenarios: Moving along. Cherie is working to have them released and ready for the Plugfest.
#0033 Best Practices for Document Authors. To be continued after the October Plugfest
#0034 Interop Demo Videos. Louis wants to use the Budapest narrative and video and put it on YouTube. It is not clear where the videos can be found at this point. There was a Hungarian TV crew and another individual from a news organization also recorded the event. Louis will follow-up to find out who knows, and Don Harbison will check his contacts as well.
#0038 Clean OTT specification template. Not started yet.
#0041 Battery of Conformance Assessment Probes. Rob is aiming to have something for the Plugfest. He's working on one related to OpenFormula. Also, for the RDF Metadata, Rob would like to that metadata that is not understood is preserved. Also, presentation tables might be a new one. Bar also had done some work on demonstrating digital signatures and his scripts are on the OIC SVN. There was discussion on where to get certificates and the use cases for a document recipient finding the certificates for a received signature. Rob asked if there were other new-in ODF 1.2 features that might fit in this category of simple confirmations of feature presence in markup and how implementations respond currently.
Validators not being current to ODF 1.2 and how validators and ODF 1.2 converge as ODF 1.2 is stabilized and ratified was also discussed.
3. STATE OF INTEROPERABILITY REPORT e-BALLOT
CD05-rev01 has been uploaded has been approved. It will be given a new cover and header/footers to be CD06 and then 15-day Public Review can be requested by Bart. It is the change-tracked version that is sent out for review.
4. INTEROP ADVISORIES
Bart hasn't created any new ones.
There was continuation of the discussion around what advisories to have with regard to inconsistencies that can happen when a document is partially modified but dependencies impacted by the changes are not adjusted accordingly. Rob suggested there may be multiple classes of producers, including some that do not render and so rendering-related information (e.g., soft page breaks) is not maintained.
Rob raised a new subject: annotations to the RNG schema for ODF that could be used as a guide for implementers noticing that there are dependencies to deal with, and the annotations might be mechanically processable.
5. STATUS OF ODF EVENTS
5.1 ODF INTEROP DEMO (September, Budapest)
Don Harbison provided an update on the InterOp Demo. The requirements were met. Don will send out a wrap-up notice to the OASIS TCs involved with ODF.
In addition to the videos being hunted down, Rob Weir has recorded some podcasts that are available on OpenDocument.xml.org.
5.2 ODF PLUGFEST (October, Brussels)
<http://www.odfplugfest.be/>
Bart summarized the current status of Plugfest preparations and also the scheduled social event. Anyone who has not registered and is coming, please register.
Bart added that suggestions for the time and place of the next Plugfest are now of interest.
6. ROUND TABLE
Louis confirmed that there may be an ODF Anniversary event, probably in 2011 in The Netherlands. It is still being formulated and is not definite yet. It was discussed that if the event were co-located with the OpenOffice 2011 conference in Paris, October 2011, this would coincide with 5 year of IS 26300 and ODF 1.2 would be in some stage at ISO by then as well.
With regard to engaging more implementers outside of those who participate on the ODF TCs, Rob is going to be doing some private testing on implementations and communicate with implementers on his findings, accompanied by hints on how to improve conformance. He hopes this will be useful encouragement of the small implementations that lack resources for significant interoperability planning and testing.
7. FUTURE MEETING PLANNING
The next meeting is on October 6, at the usual time.
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Respectfully submitted,
Dennis E. Hamilton, OIC TC Secretary
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