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Subject: OIC TC 2012-06-27 Meeting Minutes
OIC COORDINATION CALL
Date: Wednesday 27 June 2012
Time: 13:30 - 13:55 UT
1. LOGISTICS
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The chat room: <http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oic>
(doesn't count for attendance)
The call-in numbers:
<https://www.teleconference.att.com/servlet/glbAccess?process=1&accessCode=84367726&accessNumber=2158616239>
Meeting agendas also provide the pass codes and the commonly-used call-in numbers
<https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201206/msg00008.html>
The action items (log-in required):
<http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/members/action_items.php>
1.1 ROLL CALL AND QUORUM CHECK
The 4/4 voting members present satisfied the 3/4 quorum requirement for start of the meeting.
MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE
* Bart Hanssens, Fedict (Chair)
* Andreas Guelzow, Individual [leave of absence from July 4 through July 18]
* Dennis Hamilton, Individual (Secretary)
* Louis Suarez-Potts, Individual
[* = Voting Member at start of meeting (4)
+ = becoming Voting Member at conclusion of meeting (0)
= = Persistent Non-Voting Member (0)]
MEMBERS ABSENT
Charles Schulz, Ars Aperta
Peter Junge, Beijing Sursen International
Alex Wang, Beijing Sursen International
Jeremy Allison, Google Inc.
Don Harbison, IBM
Mingfei Jia, IBM
Rob Weir, IBM
Svante Schubert, Individual
Cherie Ekholm, Microsoft
! John Haug, Microsoft [leave of absence through 2012-07-15]
Doug Mahugh, Microsoft
Eric Patterson, Microsoft
Kazmer Koleszar, MultiRacio
Péter Rakyta, MultiRacio
Alan Clark, Novell
Bernd Eilers, Oracle Corporation
Andrew Rist, Oracle Corporation
Tom Rabon, Red Hat
Jerry Smith, US Department of Defense
[* = Voting Member at start and end of meeting (0)
- = Voting Member becoming non-voting Member at end of meeting (0)
= = Persistent Non-Voting Member (0)
! = Voting Member on leave-of-absence through the specified date (1)
]
1.2 PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES (2012-06-13), approved without objection
<https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201206/msg00007.html>
Note: Minutes are also found on the document registry. The public,
non-member view is not that great:
<https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/documents.php?folder_id=2120&wg_abbrev=oic>
1.3 TODAY'S AGENDA, approved without modification
<https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201206/msg00008.html>
2. STATUS OF ACTION ITEMS
#0015 Template Scenarios. No progress
#0041 Battery of ODF 1.2 Assessment Documents. No report
#0044 Split up Advisory 00002. In progress
#0046 Update Advisory 00007. No progress
#0047 Confirmation of Advisory 00008 test documents. Bart will follow up with the Apache ODF Toolkit project. The crypto expert at Fedict has told him that ETSI is working on a specific XAdES profile that might need to be tried also.
3. DELIVERABLES / TEST CASES
September 30, 2012 remains the working deadline for anything that the OIC TC would make available. There are now 15 weeks remaining until the October 16-19 LibreOffice 2012 Conference in Berlin, assuming that the next Plugfest is in conjunction with that event.
3.1 Second "State of Interoperability" Report
There is still need for suggestions and an outline to accomplish this. Louis suggested that the KDE analysis done for WebODF might be an useful basis for an assessment of the current state. He took the action to make contact with Jos van den van den Oever to see what could be made available.
3.3 Interop Advisories
#00008 on Digital Signature Namespace awaits confirmation of the test documents.
<https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/svn/oic/Advisories/00008-DSig_Namespaces/trunk/description.html>
See the Action Item #0047 note.
#00009 on Protection-Key Safety is essentially complete.
<https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/svn/oic/Advisories/00009-ProtectionKeySafety/trunk/description.html>
Although there is reference to proposals at the ODF TC, changes to those do not impact this advisory. Detailed review is requested.
4. FOLDING ADOPTION TC / OIC TC/ ...
Louis reported that
- There is a dramatic drop in attendance and participation on the ODF Adoption TC.
- The chair has been more focused on Apache OpenOffice (incubating, AOOi) coordination lately.
- Promotion of ODF among developers and adopters has gained more importance with maturation of the standard.
- It has been suggested that the ODF Adoption TC be closed and a subcommittee of the ODF TC be created for
ad hoc adoption support. (This was raised at the ODF TC but not discussed yet.)
- OASIS has a new Marketing category and any (sub)committee could be linked-up with that for lighter-weight operation also.
It was expressed that adding the adoption functions to the OIC scope would simply provide more that the OIC TC is not accomplishing.
The conversation turned to what actions the OIC TC could take that would have stake holders -- developers and adopters -- pay attention and also want to participate in the direction of OIC TC effort through their contributions. It appears that interoperability is not a top-line issue, especially when the funding of efforts to provide interoperability assessments and assurance are involved. The prospect of university student projects was suggested.
Louis suggested that there might be something around successful round-tripping cases that could be used as some kind of initial benchmarks. It is not clear how products could display their relationship to any assessment and what would motivate their doing that.
It seems to come around to having someone build deliverables that have significance for stakeholders in interoperability among ODF-supporting implementations.
5. ROUND TABLE
Dennis reported that he will continue as an OASIS individual member and member of the OIC TC for another year. He reminded the TC that his resignation as Secretary will still be effective after the last meeting in July 2012 and he will not sustain his Voting Member status thereafter.
Louis reported that he will be attending a conference in Brazil after his being at OSCON. He will present on both ODF and Apache OpenOffice in Brazil. He'll also raise issues being discussed at the OIC TC to see what the Brazilian community may have to offer.
Bart reported on the disconnect that has occurred around planning for the next Plugfest. It was suggested that what is needed now, is to focus on OIC TC deliverables on the assumption that there will be a Plugfest co-located with the LibreOffice 2012 Conference in Berlin, October 16-19.
6. FUTURE MEETING PLANNING
The call for July 11 is cancelled. Andreas Guelzow and John Haug would both be on leave-of-absence at that time.
The next call will be on 2012-07-25 at the usual time.
Respectfully submitted,
- Dennis E. Hamilton
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