OIC TC 2012-09-05 Meeting Minutes

[Hanssens Bart <Bart.Hanssens@fedict.be>]

OIC COORDINATION CALL
Date:  Wednesday 05 September 2012
Time:  13:30 - 14:00 UT
 
1. LOGISTICS

The chat room: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oic
(doesn't count for attendance) 
 
The call-in numbers: 
https://www.teleconference.att.com/servlet/glbAccess?process=1&accessCode=84367726&accessNumber=2158616239
 
Meeting agendas also provide the pass codes and the commonly-used call-in numbers
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201209/msg00000.html

The action items (log-in required):
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/members/action_items.php
  
1.1 ROLL CALL AND QUORUM CHECK

The 3/4 voting members present satisfied the 3/4 quorum requirement for start of the meeting. 

    MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE
    * Bart Hanssens, Fedict (Chair)
    * Andreas Guelzow, Individual
    * John Haug, Microsoft
       Louis Suarez-Potts, Individual
      [* = Voting Member at start of meeting (3)
       + = becoming Voting Member at conclusion of meeting (0)
       = = Persistent Non-Voting Member (0)]
 
    MEMBERS ABSENT
      Charles Schulz, Ars Aperta
      Peter Junge, Beijing Sursen International
      Alex Wang, Beijing Sursen International 
      Jeremy Allison, Google Inc.
      Don Harbison, IBM
      Mingfei Jia, IBM
      Rob Weir, IBM
    - Dennis Hamilton, Individual
      Svante Schubert, Individual
      Cherie Ekholm, Microsoft
      Doug Mahugh, Microsoft
      Eric Patterson, Microsoft
      Kazmer Koleszar, MultiRacio
      Péter Rakyta, MultiRacio
      Alan Clark, Novell
      Bernd Eilers, Oracle Corporation
      Andrew Rist, Oracle Corporation
      Tom Rabon, Red Hat
      Jerry Smith, US Department of Defense

      [* = Voting Member at start and end of meeting (0)
       - = Voting Member becoming non-voting Member at end of meeting (1)
       = = Persistent Non-Voting Member (0)
       ! = Voting Member on leave-of-absence through the specified date (0)
         ]
 
1.2 PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES (2012-08-08), approved with no comments
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201208/msg00008.html

1.3 TODAY'S AGENDA, approved without modification
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201209/msg00000.html
 

2. STATUS OF ACTION ITEMS
  #0015 Template Scenarios.  No report
  #0041 Battery of ODF 1.2 Assessment Documents.  No report
  #0044 Split up Advisory 00002.  No report
  #0046 Update Advisory 00007.  No report
  #0047 Confirmation of Advisory 00008 test documents.  No progress

   
3. DELIVERABLES / TEST CASES

3.1 Second "State of Interoperability" Report

Work on this report is not part of the List of Action Items, because it is already mentioned in the OIC TC Charter.

    "... To produce reports on overall trends in conformance and interoperability
           that note areas of accomplishment as well as areas needing improvement, ..."
 
Louis suggested to create a wiki page to get started, and to encourage implementers to add comments or perhaps even some implementation notes.

John was not entirely sure what the intended scope of this report is, but will pass the information to the MS-Office development team.

Bart repeated that the goal of this second "State of Interoperability Report" is to report on ODF interoperability in general.
It is not intended to promote or denounce specific implementations.


3.2 Interop Advisories

https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oic/InteropAdvisories

00008-DSig_Namespaces

Bart is testing ODF-signatures in the MS-Office 2013 preview.
He also hopes to be able to test signatures with the ODF Toolkit.


4. ROUND TABLE

Louis is concerned that there seems to be less communication between the different implementers than before,
especially (but not limited to) those working on cloud-based solutions. This leads to interoperability issues.
Users and leading technical sources (e.g O'Reilly) should be made aware of the potential cost-savings of ODF.

Andreas mentioned the Gnumeric team is working on implementing custom shapes.
He is not happy about the ODF specification in this area, it is not clear how to implement things.
He may be able to contribute some tests or interop advisories in the future, when more code has been written.

John invites TC Members to report ODF interoperability issues, if any, with the MS-Office 2013 preview.
He will send the comments to the development team.

Bart mentioned that Michiel Leenaars (OpenDoc Society) and Charles-H Shulz will organize a conference call,
probably next week, to discuss what needs to be done for the next ODF plugfest in Berlin (October)
Bart will ask them to send out the conference call invitation to the public ODF plugfest mailing list.


5. FUTURE MEETING PLANNING

The next call will be on September 19th, at the usual time.