OIC TC 2012-10-03 Meeting Minutes

[Hanssens Bart <Bart.Hanssens@fedict.be>]

OIC COORDINATION CALL
Date:  Wednesday 03 October 2012
Time:  13:30 - 14:05 UT
 
1. LOGISTICS

The chat room: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oic
(doesn't count for attendance) 
 
The call-in numbers: 
https://www.teleconference.att.com/servlet/glbAccess?process=1&accessCode=84367726&accessNumber=2158616239
 
Meeting agenda also provides the pass codes and the commonly-used call-in numbers
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201209/msg00007.html

The action items (log-in required):
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/members/action_items.php
  
1.1 ROLL CALL AND QUORUM CHECK

The 2/3 voting members present satisfied the 2/3 quorum requirement for start of the meeting. 

    MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE
    * Bart Hanssens, Fedict (Chair)
    * John Haug, Microsoft
       Chris Rae, Microsoft
       Péter Rakyta, MultiRacio
    * Louis Suarez-Potts, Individual
      [* = Voting Member at start of meeting (3)
       + = becoming Voting Member at conclusion of meeting (0)
       = = Persistent Non-Voting Member (0)]
 
    MEMBERS ABSENT
      Charles Schulz, Ars Aperta
      Peter Junge, Beijing Sursen International
      Alex Wang, Beijing Sursen International 
      Jeremy Allison, Google Inc.
      Don Harbison, IBM
      Mingfei Jia, IBM
      Rob Weir, IBM
   * Andreas Guelzow, Individual
      Dennis Hamilton, Individual
      Svante Schubert, Individual
      Cherie Ekholm, Microsoft
      Doug Mahugh, Microsoft
      Eric Patterson, Microsoft
      Kazmer Koleszar, MultiRacio
      Alan Clark, Novell
      Bernd Eilers, Oracle Corporation
      Andrew Rist, Oracle Corporation
      Tom Rabon, Red Hat
      Jerry Smith, US Department of Defense

      [* = Voting Member at start and end of meeting (1)
       - = Voting Member becoming non-voting Member at end of meeting (0)
       = = Persistent Non-Voting Member (0)
       ! = Voting Member on leave-of-absence through the specified date (0)
         ]
 
1.2 PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES (2012-09-05), approved with no comments
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201209/msg00003.html

1.3 TODAY'S AGENDA, approved without modification
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201209/msg00007.html
 

2. STATUS OF ACTION ITEMS
  #0015 Template Scenarios.  No report
  #0041 Battery of ODF 1.2 Assessment Documents.  No report
  #0044 Split up Advisory 00002.  No report
  #0046 Update Advisory 00007.  No report

  #0047 Confirmation of Advisory 00008 test documents. In progress

Bart has tested the example files listed in the Advisory, but he hasn't contacted the ODF toolkit developers just yet.
He did send John a mail with a question about the digital signature user interface of the MS-Office 2013 preview.
See also agenda item 3.2

  #0050 Wiki page for 2nd Status of Interop report. Closed.

As Louis suggested, Bart has created a wiki page. See also agenda item 3.1.

   
3. DELIVERABLES / TEST CASES

3.1 Second "State of Interoperability" Report

The wiki page https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oic/The_State_of_ODF_Interoperability_2012 was created,
but it needs much more input, and the final report will not be ready before the ODF plugfest mid-October.

Bart added some initial comments: interoperability progress has been made in the formula area
(because ODF 1.2 now defines formulas, and ODF 1.2 is becoming more widely implemented)

However, few implementations support the new enhanced (RDF) metadata, and/or XForms.

John will contact the MS-Office development team to see if there are other items to be added.

Bart also explains that change tracking interoperability remains a big issue.
Louis wants to know if that is due to limited support in specific implementations, or issues with the specification itself.
Bart says that it is both implementation and specification related: e.g. change tracking lists and tables does not work well in ODF.
Peter mentions that MultiRacio is working on implementing Svante's change tracking proposal.
John is active in the ODF Advanced Document Collaboration SC.

Bart repeated that the goal of this second "State of Interoperability Report" is to report on ODF interoperability in general.
It is not intended to promote or denounce specific implementations.


3.2 Interop Advisories

https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oic/InteropAdvisories

00008-DSig_Namespaces

Bart has tested ODF-signatures in the MS-Office 2013 preview.
He also hopes to be able to test signatures with the ODF Toolkit.

Bart is, however, happy with the Advisory itself and suggests to create a ballot to see if this Draft Advisory can be promoted to Candidate status.
No-one objects.


4. ROUND TABLE

4.1 ODF Plugfest

Bart gives a quick overview of the ODF Plugfest program in Berlin.
http://plugfest.opendocsociety.org/doku.php?id=plugfests:201210_berlin:info
Participants must register before October 8th, because the host (German Ministry of Economy and Technology) has a strict visitor policy.

Louis suggests to inform the ODF plugfest attendees about the OIC TC Interop Advisories.
It is also a good occasion to invite people to become member of OASIS and participate in the OIC TC.
Louis also mentions the upcoming ApacheCon conference in November http://www.apachecon.eu/

John will not be able to attend the plugfest, as he is already attending an ISO meeting.


4.2 Other

John introduces Chris. John has accepted a new position inside Microsoft, so Chris will take over John's role in the OIC TC.
John remains active in the ODF Advanced Document Collaboration SC.


5. FUTURE MEETING PLANNING

The October 17th meeting will be cancelled: Bart will be at the plugfest. 
So the next call will be on October 31th, 13:30 UTC
Starting time in North-America remains the same
The call starts one hour earlier in Europe (end of Summer Time in Europe)