OIC TC 2012-11-28 Notes

[Hanssens Bart <Bart.Hanssens@fedict.be>]

IMPORTANT: The 2012-11-28 Meeting Teleconference failed to achieve a quorum as a meeting of the OASIS OIC TC.
The following note accounts for attendance (which applies regardless) and then provides notes from the informal 
discussion that was held among those in attendance.


OIC COORDINATION CALL
Date:  Wednesday 28 November 2012
Time:  14:30 - 14:55 UTC

 
1. LOGISTICS

The chat room: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oic
(doesn't count for attendance) 
 
The call-in numbers: 
https://www.teleconference.att.com/servlet/glbAccess?process=1&accessCode=84367726&accessNumber=2158616239
 
Meeting agenda also provides the pass codes and the commonly-used call-in numbers
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201211/msg00021.html

The action items (log-in required):
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/members/action_items.php


1.1 ROLL CALL AND QUORUM CHECK


The 2/4 voting members present did not satisfy the 3/5 quorum requirement for start of the meeting. 

    MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE
    * Bart Hanssens, Fedict (Chair)
    * Andreas Guelzow, Individual

      [* = Voting Member at start of meeting (2)
       + = becoming Voting Member at conclusion of meeting (0)
       = = Persistent Non-Voting Member (0)]
 
    MEMBERS ABSENT
      Charles Schulz, Ars Aperta
      Peter Junge, Beijing Sursen International
      Alex Wang, Beijing Sursen International 
      Jeremy Allison, Google Inc.
      Don Harbison, IBM
      Mingfei Jia, IBM
      Rob Weir, IBM
      Dennis Hamilton, Individual
    - Louis Suarez-Potts, Individual 
      Svante Schubert, Individual
      Cherie Ekholm, Microsoft
    - John Haug, Microsoft
      Doug Mahugh, Microsoft
      Eric Patterson, Microsoft
    * Chris Rae, Microsoft
      Kazmer Koleszar, MultiRacio
      Péter Rakyta, MultiRacio
      Alan Clark, Novell
      Bernd Eilers, Oracle Corporation
      Andrew Rist, Oracle Corporation
      Tom Rabon, Red Hat
      Jerry Smith, US Department of Defense

      [* = Voting Member at start and end of meeting (1)
       - = Voting Member becoming non-voting Member at end of meeting (2)
       = = Persistent Non-Voting Member (0)
       ! = Voting Member on leave-of-absence through the specified date (0)
         ]
 
1.2 PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES (2012-10-03)

Since there is no quorum, the minutes for the 2012-10-03 Meeting Minutes cannot be formally approved.
No remarks on the notes of the 2012-10-31 conference call either.


1.3 TODAY'S AGENDA

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201211/msg00021.html
Since there is no quorum, the agenda cannot be formally approved.


2. STATUS OF ACTION ITEMS

  #0015 Template Scenarios.  No report
  #0041 Battery of ODF 1.2 Assessment Documents.  No report
  #0044 Split up Advisory 00002.  No report
  #0046 Update Advisory 00007.  No report
  #0047 Confirmation of Advisory 00008 test documents. In progress
  #0051 Check advisory 00005. In progress
  #0052 Draft 2nd Status of Interop report. See below


3. DELIVERABLES / TEST CASES

3.1 Second "State of Interoperability" Report

Bart is working on a draft of the second report on interoperability, using the input gathered on the OIC Wiki.
See also https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oic/The_State_of_ODF_Interoperability_2012

As per procedure, he asked OASIS to provide a template for a Committee Note (White Paper style)
See also https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN-1123


3.2 Result of the e-ballot on Advisory 00008

The e-ballot on promoting the Advisory on digital signatures to Candidate status was approved.
Bart states that few ODF implementations support digital signatures, and that many of those that do,
only provide very basic support.


3.3 Other Interop Advisories

No new advisories.


4. ROUND TABLE

* There was a lot of discussion on the mailing list about the ODF 1.2 version attribute.
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/email/archives/201211/msg00002.html


* Bart and Andreas briefly discuss change tracking in spreadsheets.

Andreas notes that the ODF specification is mostly focused on change tracking in text documents.

Bart says that, in his department, he hasn't noticed anyone using change tracking inside spreadsheets.
If changes need to be tracked, a copy of a spreadsheet is made and a version number is added to the file name.
By contrast, change tracking inside text documents is frequently used.

Andreas wonders what the cause and what the effect is. Are users not using change tracking inside spreadsheets,
because they feel that spreadsheet software does not handle change tracking very well ?
Or are vendors not that much interested in implementing change tracking inside spreadsheets,
because they fell that spreadsheet users don't like / need change tracking ?


5. FUTURE MEETING PLANNING

The next call will be on December 12th, 14:30 UTC.
This will be the last conference call of 2012.