RE: [oic] state of interop / mention cloud offerings or not ?

["Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>]

So, is this the state of interoperability among ODF implementations or the state of interoperability of ODF implementations with non-ODF implementations?

I think in Section 7.2, it is appropriate to mention that Cloud and Mobile offerings that import-export ODF documents typically support subsets.  But then there is the question about the fact that all implementations support subsets in one way or another.  

Perhaps we're confusing, in section 7, issues of the ODF feature set and of implementation behaviors with general challenges of interoperability with ODF as specified (or under-specified).  So, how does one improve interoperability here (and in general) when the conformance requirements for ODF are quite flexible in this regard?  

For example, it would be useful for ODF to specify what is the running text of a document and what is not the text of a document (in the context of 7.1) and there could be an advisory (if there isn't all ready) that any paragraph-content under <text:tracked-changes> elements are not part of the running text.  There should also be a definition of what is the running text and where is it, on behalf of text extractors and content-search mechanisms.  This is not just about change-tracking.

Also, some of these statements in Section 7 are not very concrete or fact-based.  For example, for 7.3, what is the problem?  What is the desired interoperability improvement and how did it become a priority?  Whose responsibility is the improvement?  Is there a role for OIC that is outside the scope of the ODF TC?

If there is a question about feature-parity with other office-productivity software (including cloud-/mobile-present software), and how inter-conversion or interchange works, is that really in scope for OIC?

OK, too many questions.  I'll stop.

 - Dennis  

PS: One more question.  Was a Committee Note Draft template obtained from TC Administration for this document?  I think it may need to be moved into a boilerplate provided by TC Admin.

-----Original Message-----
From: oic@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:oic@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Hanssens Bart
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 01:16
To: oic@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [oic] state of interop / mention cloud offerings or not ?

Thanks Chris,


About the (lack of) cloud implementations, if I recall correctly, it was suggested by Louis...
What do other Members think ? Should it be mentioned as interop issue or not ?


Best regards

Bart

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From: Chris Rae [mailto:Chris.Rae@microsoft.com] 
Sent: donderdag 11 april 2013 0:27
To: Hanssens Bart; oic@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [oic] Groups - State of Interoperability Report (working draft 5) uploaded

Hi Bart - looks good! We do still think that the state of interoperability report shouldn't cover the lack of cloud implementations, but the other edits look great.

Chris

From: oic@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:oic@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Bart Hanssens
Sent: 10 April 2013 06:29
To: oic@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [oic] Groups - State of Interoperability Report (working draft 5) uploaded

Submitter's message
I've integrated the remarks from Chris / John, and splitted the table under 5 "interop roadmap" into two separate tables.

I've also added some more info on "6.1 Numbered Lists" and "6.2 Tables in presentations"

Suggestions and feedback is still welcome of course


Best regards

Bart 
-- Mr. Bart Hanssens 
Document Name: State of Interoperability Report (working draft 5)
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Description
Second "State of Interoperability Report" 
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Submitter: Mr. Bart Hanssens
Group: OASIS Open Document Format Interoperability and Conformance (OIC) TC
Folder: Standards
Date submitted: 2013-04-10 06:29:06
Revision: 5


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