Re: Meeting Times

["Mr. Stefan Hagen" <stefan@hagen.link>]

Dear TC members,

I sense quite some balloting in this TC already in its infancy (as an organism) and I wonder if this is a good mode for growing this "organism".

It will all work out, I guess - maybe we ease a little more :-?

/Stefan

On 11/07/17 21:00, Bret Jordan wrote:
> We have a motion to change it, and it has been seconded by several
> people.  I guess we just need a ballot to decide what everyone wants.
> 
> Bret
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Brule, Joseph M <jmbrule@radium.ncsc.mil>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 10, 2017 11:00:56 AM
> *To:* dave.lemire; Bret Jordan
> *Cc:* jg; ikirillov@mitre.org; openc2@lists.oasis-open.org
> *Subject:* RE: [openc2] Re: [EXT] RE: [openc2] Meeting Times
>  
> If it simplifies the prioritization and makes sense to you to have a
> meeting
> at the standard time of 13:00, then by all means do so!  In fact I will
> even
> go so far as to say let's make 13:00 meeting times a conventional practice,
> but I do NOT see the value in constraining the SC chairs, tiger team leads
> etc.  with some immutable 'rule'.   If someone wants to set up a 14:00
> will we
> require a ballot or formal vote to suspend the rule?  I would assume
> that is
> not anyone's intent.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Lemire [mailto:dave.lemire@g2-inc.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 10:53 AM
> To: Bret Jordan <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com>
> Cc: Brule, Joseph M <jmbrule@radium.ncsc.mil>; jg <jg@ctin.us>;
> ikirillov@mitre.org; openc2@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [openc2] Re: [EXT] RE: [openc2] Meeting Times
> 
> I'm in complete agreement that a standard meeting time makes sense. If
> nothing
> else, it simplifies the prioritization exercise for heavily scheduled
> people.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
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> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Bret Jordan <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
> <mailto:Bret_Jordan@symantec.com> > wrote:
> 
> 
>         The benefits having a standard time far out weight any
> limitations that might
> occur for a SC.  Give the tempo and amount of work we need to do, it
> would be
> good to try and have as many people engaged as possible. The best way to do
> that is to have predictable times that people can mark off on their
> calendars.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>         There is no guarantee that they will be able to attend all of
> the meetings,
> but at least they do not need to play wack-a-mole with trying to figure out
> when a meeting is going to take place.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>         Bret
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
>         From: Brule, Joseph M <jmbrule@radium.ncsc.mil
> <mailto:jmbrule@radium.ncsc.mil> >
>         Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 5:53:04 AM
>         To: 'jg'; ikirillov@mitre.org <mailto:ikirillov@mitre.org> ;
> Bret Jordan;
> openc2@lists.oasis-open.org <mailto:openc2@lists.oasis-open.org>
>         Subject: [EXT] RE: [openc2] Meeting Times
> 
> 
>         I will make a statement against this proposal;  I am OK with the
> idea of
>         stating that 13:00 Eastern is preferred, but I do not see the
> value in
>         artificially constraining our subcommittee chairs and/or team
> leads.  I
>         disagree with making this some sort of rule (other than a rule
> of thumb)
> 
>           VR
> 
>         Joe B
> 
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: openc2@lists.oasis-open.org
> <mailto:openc2@lists.oasis-open.org>
> [mailto:openc2@lists.oasis-open.org <mailto:openc2@lists.oasis-open.org>
> ] On
>         Behalf Of jg
>         Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 9:34 PM
>         To: ikirillov@mitre.org <mailto:ikirillov@mitre.org> ;
> Bret_Jordan@symantec.com <mailto:Bret_Jordan@symantec.com> ;
> openc2@lists.oasis-open.org <mailto:openc2@lists.oasis-open.org>
>         Subject: Re: [openc2] Meeting Times
> 
>         OpenC2 Members:
> 
>         I also concur on this proposal.
> 
>         Jane Ginn, MSIA, MRP
>         Secretary, CTI TC
>         OASIS
>         jg@ctin.us <mailto:jg@ctin.us>
>         In U.S.: +(928) 399-0509 <tel:(928)%20399-0509>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>         -------- Original Message --------
>         From: "Kirillov, Ivan A." <ikirillov@mitre.org
> <mailto:ikirillov@mitre.org> >
>         Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 11:32 AM
>         To: Bret Jordan <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
> <mailto:Bret_Jordan@symantec.com>
>  >,"openc2@lists.oasis-open.org <mailto:openc2@lists.oasis-open.org>  "
>         <openc2@lists.oasis-open.org <mailto:openc2@lists.oasis-open.org> >
>         Subject: Re: [openc2] Meeting Times
> 
> 
> 
>         I second this motion.
> 
> 
> 
>         Regards,
> 
>         Ivan
> 
> 
> 
>         From: <openc2@lists.oasis-open.org
> <mailto:openc2@lists.oasis-open.org> > on
> behalf of Bret Jordan
>         <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com <mailto:Bret_Jordan@symantec.com> >
>         Date: Friday, July 7, 2017 at 11:22 AM
>         To: "openc2@lists.oasis-open.org
> <mailto:openc2@lists.oasis-open.org> "
> <openc2@lists.oasis-open.org <mailto:openc2@lists.oasis-open.org> >
>         Subject: [openc2] Meeting Times
> 
> 
> 
>         All,
> 
> 
> 
>         I would like to motion that we move and set all OpenC2 meetings
> to be at
> 13:00
>         ET, regardless of the day.  This will make it easier for
> participants to have
>         predictability in the schedule and will prevent conflicts when
> SC and working
>         groups pick ad-hoc times.
> 
> 
> 
>         Bret
> 
> 
> 
>