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Subject: Minutes of 26 November
Event details
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oslc-core/event.php?event_id=36197
Agenda
2013-11-26 GMT-08:00 (Timestamps below are US Pacific)
Chat transcript from room: oslc
2013-11-26 GMT-08:00
[07:00] Steve Speicher (IBM): Agenda: https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/Meetings/Telecon2013.11.26#Agenda
[07:06] Harish (Software AG): Hello everyone.. Good morning
[07:06] Steve Speicher (IBM): Perhaps Arnaud can add to his scribe list some guidance on scribe duties/expectations
[07:07] Harish (Software AG): Has the audio call begun? I am still hearing the music..want to make sure I joined the right one.
[07:07] John Arwe (IBM): yes mtg has started
[07:07] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Meeting has started
[07:07] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): (just now)
[07:08] Steve Speicher (IBM): Harish the number is different this week, https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oslc-core/event.php?event_id=36197
[07:08] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): David Green is scribe
[07:08] John Arwe (IBM): Harish, what # did you use?
[07:08] Harish (Software AG): Thanks Steve
[07:08] Harish (Software AG): I use the India Paid number
[07:08] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Wiki is now available
[07:08] Harish (Software AG): I'll join in a moment
[07:09] Steve Speicher (IBM): Wiki link is https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core
Introduction of new members
[07:10] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Robert Baillargeon, VP Engineering at Sodius
[07:10] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Ian Green, IBM, work group lead for OLSC account management group
[07:10] Robert Baillargeon (Sodius): Intro -> VP of Engineering - Sodius. Target interoperability in the Systems & Software engineering tools. Often target Automotive and Aerospace domain.
[07:11] ian green (ibm): Robert: "for requirements management workgroup"
Approval of minutes from meeting of November 12th
[07:12] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Email for minutes must be sent to ensure no changes made after posting on the wiki. Attendees are highlighted.
[07:13] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Meeting Minutes - no objections, meeting minutes from November 12th declared approved.
[07:14] Steve Speicher (IBM): https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/FrontPage#Meetings
[07:15] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Discussion regarding meeting minutes and URI stability. Minutes are currently on front page. If/when moved, a breadcrumb will be left at the old URI.
Doodle poll on 2014 TC calls
[07:16] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Doodle poll regarding TC meeting schedule: trying to accommodate many timezones.
[07:16] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Consider voting if you haven't yet: http://www.doodle.com/f8anriir54i5fb4k
[07:17] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): suggestion of alternate day, Friday
[07:18] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Arnaud to add Friday to the poll
[07:19] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): another email will go out with a new poll including Friday
Review of seed documents
[07:19] John Arwe (IBM): basic probability equations ensure that once the group size gets past a certain point, very low odds of findting one time that everyone's fine with
[07:19] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): we don't have material to work on yet.
[07:20] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): link to OSLC core work group on agenda to "seed documents"
[07:20] John Arwe (IBM): http://open-services.net/wiki/core/Specification-3.0/#Specifications if following along at home
[07:21] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): we (as OSLC TC core wg) need to submit each document to OASIS. Someone needs to put them up and take charge of them.
[07:21] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): previously we had editors
[07:21] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): looking to assign people to specific documents
[07:21] Steve Speicher (IBM): FYI Process for "Contributions" to a TC https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#iprProcedures see section 2.17, last paragraph
[07:22] John Arwe (IBM): is there any requirement that the editor(s) must be == submitter(s)?
[07:22] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Steve talks about contributions process
[07:25] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): suggestion of tool "ReSpec"
[07:27] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): discussion about which tool to use, HTML is the target output
[07:27] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): same ReSpec as used by w3c
[07:28] Steve Speicher (IBM): http://open-services.net/wiki/core/Specification-3.0/
[07:29] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): some seed documents are not specification
[07:29] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): suggestion to start with those
[07:30] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): clarification: 3 documents are not specification, but suggest that we start with those
[07:31] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): natural next ones would be UI preview and delegated UI...
[07:32] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): suggestion to create a plan for each document to get it across the line
[07:33] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Steve Speicher has volunteered to submit the first 3 documents
[07:33] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): no objections
[07:34] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Arnaud: timeline?
[07:35] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Steve: Could be as soon as before the next meeting, or later. Could be different levels of work done here, 3 levels
[07:36] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Arnaud: suggests ready for next call for feedback and before deadline
[07:36] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): intent is to have submissions ready for vote in next meeting
[07:37] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): what does vote mean?
[07:38] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): means we take ownership of these documents, that we'll take care of them from then on
[07:38] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): two stage process
[07:39] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): this is part of formal acceptance process
[07:41] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Steve to send in documents Thursday December 5th, so that TC has a chance to review before Tuesday meeting
[07:41] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): documents should largely be the same as their current form, changes editorial in nature
[07:41] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): so no surprises expected
[07:45] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Nick Crossley volunteering to help work on vocabulary
[07:47] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Steve: talks about vocabulary ...other one is done in w3c
[07:47] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Nick: w3c only has one term
[07:47] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): ...some details about vocabulary missing from these notes...
[07:48] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Steve: widely used and stable
[07:50] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Arnaud: any other candidates?
[07:50] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): UI Previews, UI Dialogs, Common Vocabulary
[07:51] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): these are candidates for second round
[07:52] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): question: are we going to get them all into the TC first?
[07:52] Nick Crossley (IBM): Nick Crossley volunteered to work on Vocabulary Annotation Vocabulary - will reference existing W3C Term-centric Semantic Web Vocabulary Annotations, but not attempt to redefine that
[07:52] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Steve: waterfall is not the plan, would like to get them all into the TC so that we can work on them
[07:52] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): thanks Nick
[07:53] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Arnaud: concludes main part of agenda
Any other business
[07:53] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): if you're going to miss the call, please inform Arnaud since he is tracking attendance
[07:54] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): official term: leave of absence. Voting status highly depends on attendance.
[07:56] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Any other business?
[07:57] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Steve: mentions domain TCs - configuration management, let us know if you want to be a co-submitter
[07:58] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): "software supply chain" in similar state
[07:58] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Also consider joining member section if you're not already part of it
[08:00] David Green (Tasktop Technologies): Arnaud: adjourning meeting
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