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Subject: SV: [plcs-dex] identification of organition


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Hi
 
I Haven't had the the time to follow the discussion, but I might still have an opinion.
 
A question for you Rob. Could we apply the class "unknown" ?
 
Regards
 
Leif 
 
 
-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Från: Rob Bodington [mailto:rob.bodington@eurostep.com]
Skickat: den 6 maj 2005 09:00
Till: mike.ward@eurostep.com; plcs-dex@lists.oasis-open.org
Ämne: RE: [plcs-dex] identification of organition

Thanks Mike

Option 1) is the one that I was going to suggest – in the absence of anything else,an organization identifies itself.

 However, I am just raising the issue to alert implementers.

 

Regards
Rob

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Ward [mailto:mike.ward@eurostep.com]
Sent: 05 May 2005 19:36
To: 'Rob Bodington'; plcs-dex@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [plcs-dex] identification of organition

 

Rob

 

I don't really see a problem.  The situation is just like that in the real world.

 

The threatened infinite regress can be avoided in a number of ways:

 

1) By circular referencing - the simplest case would, I suppose, be where org A provides the id for org B and vice versa ......... or (even simpler) where an org provides its own id.

2) By not assigning an id to the org at the end of the chain - after all, the id *attribute* of org was assumed to be *optional* by whoever created the original express entity.

3) By not assigning an org to the identification_assignment at the end of the chain - although I suppose this goes against your statement: "We have also agreed that an identification_assignment must be assigned in the context of an organization that owns the identifier."

 

Mike

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-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Bodington [mailto:rob.bodington@eurostep.com]
Sent: 2005 May 05 17:25
To: plcs-dex@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [plcs-dex] identification of organition

Hi

I have started to review some of the core capabilities and have a question about assigning an organization.

 

We have proposed that an organization is identified by identification assignment – no problem.

We have also agreed that an identification_assignment must be assigned in the context of an organization that owns the identifier.

Fine. But how do identify that organization? At some point you have to put use the Id attribute on organization.

An example is shown below.

 

Any suggestions?

 

 

Regards
Rob

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