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Subject: RE: [plcs] Groups - ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded


Title: RE: [plcs] Groups - ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded

I have been assuming that the Mats is proposing that DEX procedures are pasted into Word for the purposes of balloting them, which I support.

The long term data retention is perhaps a red herring – the master copy of the information is in XML and config management, Word is just one presentation of that information.

 

I am still working on the assumption that DEXs will be written in XML and published as HTML documents (just like ISO 10303-239)

 

Regards
Rob

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Rob Bodington
Eurostep Limited
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-----Original Message-----
From:
Tim King [mailto:tmk@lsc.co.uk]
Sent: 09 June 2005 09:31
To: 'Barker, Sean (UK)'; 'Carl-Johan Wilen'; '
mats.nilsson@fmv.se'; 'plcs@lists.oasis-open.org'
Subject: RE: [plcs] Groups - ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded

 

Dear Sean,

I have a fundamental warmth towards this proposal (many on this list probably know my predilection for PDF ;-).  However, do you have any observations on the extent to which this addresses the need to be able to continue to read a document rather than to be able to continue to author the content further?  I would have tended to see PDF as the strong preference for the former while not being quite so flexible or useful for the latter.

Cheers,
Tim.

P.S.  Carl seems to have beaten me to the send button ...

-----Original Message-----
From: Barker, Sean (UK) [mailto:sean.barker@baesystems.com]
Sent: 09 June 2005 09:23
To: Carl-Johan Wilen; mats.nilsson@fmv.se; plcs@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [plcs] Groups - ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded

 

The main objection to the use of Word is the long term retention of the data. If the standard is to be used over the long term, and the document forms part of the standard or supporting information, it should probably be stores as PDF, as there is significant effort being made in the archiving community to ensure that pdf files will be readable long term.

Sean Barker
ATC Filton
0117 302 8184

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Carl-Johan Wilen [mailto:Carl-Johan.Wilen@saab.se]
Sent: 08 June 2005 15:39
To: mats.nilsson@fmv.se; plcs@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [plcs] Groups - ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded

 

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DEXlib-ers,

I know that some people love XML and data "hidden" in databases, but there is nothing like a Word document!
Every one can read and print it. You can file it on your system the way you want. You can comment on it and even comment on comments and the author can easily summarize the comments and create the final document for approval.

Well, let\s go for Mats' proposal. And define a simple registration number series for PLCS TC document.

(Eg PLCS-2005-0001-001:00 = doc 0001 for Year 2005, Version 001, 00 = approved and released)

Regards

Carl

-----Original Message-----
From: mats.nilsson@fmv.se [mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se]

Sent: den 8 juni 2005 13:51...
To: plcs@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: SV: [plcs] Groups - ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded



 Hi all,

This is a comment on the procedure used by Rob to prepare the ballot document.

I firmly believe that,
   1- Creating the information which should be balloted in DEXlib.
   2- Copying it from DEXlib and pasting it into a Word-document.
   3- Presenting the document for ballot.
should be stated as a standard ballot procedure within the OASIS PLCS TC, because it makes sure that the information exists within DEXlib and isn't lost in a document in the OASIS archive.

The author/"ballot-manager" is of course responsable to correct DEXlib later according to the ballot descision.

This procedure should only be used for ballots regarding information which should be inside DEXlib (e.g. not for OASIS PLCS TC organisation issues).

Regards,
  Mats
..............................................................................
Mats Nilsson - KC Logistik

FMV - Försvarets materielverk

Swedish Defense Materiel Administration

S-115 88 Stockholm, Sweden

tel: +46 8 782 47 24     mobile: +46 70 267 47 24

fax: +46 8 782 65 64     e-mail: mats.nilsson@fmv.se





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Skickat: den 7 juni 2005 17:43
Till: plcs@lists.oasis-open.org
Ämne: [plcs] Groups - ref_data_procedure_v001.doc uploaded

I have just uploaded this document in response to:

ACTION 15/3: Rob Bodington to cut down reference data procedures to essential information.  Secretariat to send out for ballot for voting members only. Send ballot copy to entire PLCS membership.

 

The document outlines the procedure for developing and publishing PLCS reference data.
The master document is held on DExlib under the help section and has been pasted into this Word document for ease of access.

 

 -- Dr Rob Bodington

The document named ref_data_procedure_v001.doc has been submitted by Dr Rob Bodington to the OASIS Product Life Cycle Support (PLCS) TC document repository.

Document Description:
This document outlines the procedure for developing and publishing PLCS reference data.
The master document is held on DExlib under the help section and has been pasted into this Word document for ease of access.



View Document Details:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/plcs/document.php?document_id=12993

Download Document:

 

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/plcs/download.php/12993/ref_data_procedure_v001.doc

 

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