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Subject: RE: [provision] missing use cases?


In conclusion then, for 1.0 the model for asynchronous notifications
from PST to PSP, the committee is going to recommend using custom
ExtendedRequest flows?

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Darran Rolls                      http://www.waveset.com
Waveset Technologies Inc          drolls@waveset.com 
(512) 657 8360                    
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Bohren [mailto:jbohren@opennetwork.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:40 PM
> To: provision@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [provision] missing use cases?
> 
> 
> I don't think we need to formalize this, but there are several simple
> ways to make this work. All the PSP needs to do is either expose a
> different web service URL for PSTs to post updates to, or have one URL
> and differentiate between RAs making requests and PSTs posting updates
> based on the principle of the web service client.
> 
> Unless you want to support anonymous provisioning request, there
should
> be no problem differentiating provisioning requests from an RA from
> notifications from a PST.
> 
> Jeff Bohren
> Product Architect
> OpenNetwork Technologies, Inc
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cohen, Doron [mailto:Doron_Cohen@bmc.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:05 PM
> To: provision@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [provision] missing use cases?
> 
> Keep in mind though that a PST that sends a modification as client to
> the
> PSP will need to be able to indicate (for the PSP sake)  that this is
a
> notification and not  and update to the real object at the PST
> (otherwise
> the PSP may try to provision this update as if it was an RA requesting
> it) .
> In any case, I would say that this can also be an extended request of
> some
> kind unless we formalize something more structured in the specs.
> 
> Doron
> 
> Doron Cohen
> BMC Software
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Bohren [mailto:jbohren@opennetwork.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 7:43 PM
> To: provision@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [provision] missing use cases?
> 
> 
> 
> Looking at the case where there is a local change on a PST that needs
to
> get
> updated in a PSP, there are two solutions, both supportable by our
draft
> SPML spec:
> 
> 1) The PSP discovers the change using an SPML search (reconciliation).
> 2) The PST acts as client to the PSP (which acts as a server) to send
> the
> change as a modification request (serves as an asynchronous
> notification).
> 
> I do not believe that we need to add explicit asynchronous
notification
> operations at this point.
> 
> Jeff Bohren
> Product Architect
> OpenNetwork Technologies, Inc
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mpolan@ca.ibm.com [mailto:mpolan@ca.ibm.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:55 AM
> To: provision@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [provision] missing use cases?
> 
> We don't have use cases (nor operations obviously) that address
> asynchronous
> messages from the servers to the clients.  For example, a notification
> from
> a PST or PSP to indicate that a service has been suspended or deleted
> for
> some reason other than an add/delete/modify request.
> 
> Is this intentional or an oversight on our part?  If intentional, how
> would
> we address this scenario?  Discovery by the client?
> 
> Mike Polan
> IBM Canada Ltd
> 
> 
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