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Subject: [regrep] Kammerer cross-post
While I do not wish to speak for Mr. Kammerer directly, I did choose to cross-post his recent note to our Oasis Registry TC list. He raises some good points that I believe that we must address in the Version 2 set of Oasis ebXML TC registry specifications. <snip> Speaking of an Open-EDI framework, where buyers "discover" sellers, I am reminded of the ebXML Registry and Repository specification which assumed this would be the normal mode of e-business. Even in the last draft document developed by ebXML's Reg Rep successor, the OASIS Registry TC, "OASIS/ebXML Registry Services Specification v1.02 DRAFT," (26 November 2001), we still have the ridiculous scenario which originally caused my fur to rise: 5.2.4 Buyer Discovers The Seller. The buyer browses the Registry using Classification schemes defined within the Registry using a Registry Browser GUI tool to discover a suitable seller. For example the buyer may look for all parties that are in the Automotive Industry, play a seller role, support the RosettaNet PIP3A4 process and sell Car Stereos. The buyer discovers the seller's CPP and decides to engage in a partnership with the seller. 5.2.5 CPA Is Established. The buyer unilaterally creates a Collaboration Protocol Agreement or CPA as defined by [ebCPP] with the seller using the seller's CPP and their own CPP as input. The buyer proposes a trading relationship to the seller using the unilateral CPA. The seller accepts the proposed CPA and the trading relationship is established. Once the seller accepts the CPA, the parties may begin to conduct B2B transactions as defined by [ebMS]. I commented on this as far back in January: I notice that the AIAG is represented among the Reg Rep participants. I might be all wet. I don't know the auto business. But c'mon: would Volkswagen really "discover" car stereos this way? Or is it just because VW doesn't have ebXML - to show them they have alternatives - that they've put Bosch radios and spark plugs, etc. etc. in every VW since the Third Reich? The manufacturers' supply chain partnerships are based on long-standing relationships involving trust. Just look at Ford and Firestone - it took a trauma like the exploding radials to break apart a 98-year company partnership, which included Ford-Firestone dynastic marriages along the way! This "discovery" crap sounds like e-marketplace hype which only analysts and VC would swallow. If Ford wants to "discover" a direct supplier, their own buyers and engineers know where to look - they don't need ebXML. <snip> Thanks, Joel Munter Intel / eBusiness Solutions Lab joel.d.munter@intel.com (480) 552-3076 (602) 790-0924 (cell)
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