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Subject: Re: [regrep] RE: [uddi-spec] ebXML Registry / UDDI Convergence


Joel,

Your work sounds like a good starting point, however, I think the 
biggest hurdles here are not technical.  I want convergence, with 
interoperability being a consolation prize.

-Matt

On Friday, September 27, 2002, at 08:11  AM, Munter, Joel D wrote:

> Anne, et al,
>
> This detailed UDDI/ebXML RegRep tModel design and development effort 
> has
> been started by me on the OASIS ebXML Registry TC and continued by me 
> and Ed
> Mooney (of Sun) while we were both a part of the UDDI.org WG.
>
> Ed had the latest draft of a paper that fully describes these proposed
> tModels and usage examples.  I strongly urge whoever picks this effort 
> up to
> start there.  Please do not start from scratch.  The latest work is
> considered a in-progress Technical Note of the new OASIS UDDI TC.  The
> edit/review cycles were interrupted by UDDI's recent transition to 
> OASIS.
> The new UDDI TC is cleaning up its TN/Best Practice process.
>
> Joel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anne Thomas Manes [mailto:anne@manes.net]
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 7:37 AM
> To: David RR Webber - XMLGlobal
> Cc: uddi-spec@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Matthew MacKenzie'; Von Riegen,
> Claus; regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [regrep] RE: [uddi-spec] ebXML Registry / UDDI Convergence
>
>
> I would certainly propose a few technical notes. (I co-authored one for
> ebXML a while ago which spoke about using UDDI to find ebXML 
> registries.) I
> proposed a much more extensive effort to create a set of UDDI tModels 
> that
> describe ebXML registries, the APIs to access ebXML registries, as 
> well as
> uddi-org:types categorizations to represent ebXML services, but I was 
> met by
> quite a bit of resistance from the ebXML team.
>
> I'd propose that we start a joint subcommittee to explore integration
> strategies.
>
> Anne
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David RR Webber - XMLGlobal [mailto:Gnosis_@compuserve.com]
>> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 9:55 AM
>> To: Anne Thomas Manes
>> Cc: uddi-spec@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Matthew MacKenzie'; Von Riegen,
>> Claus; regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
>> Subject: [regrep] RE: [uddi-spec] ebXML Registry / UDDI Convergence
>>
>>
>> Anne,
>>
>> I think everyone assumes these are competing - but actually I'm
>> seeing different models here.
>>
>> It's not clear cut for people right now however, because
>> we've not formally articulated missions and business focus.
>>
>> Nor have we really focused on how these two systems
>> could be complimentary / co-exist in unison.
>>
>> Sure they can be purposed to do many of the same things,
>> but I believe the audiences are different - especially
>> around the deployment models.
>>
>> So people may choose one over the other, or both,
>> depending on their business needs.  We need a
>> PPT at a minimum as a discussion point so that
>> people can understand what each world looks like
>> today.
>>
>> I also see an obvious first step to create an interop' API
>> between the two with the simple goal of being able
>> to link (read-only) from an entry in one to an entry in
>> the other.  This is probably doable already today - but
>> we should formally write it up and have it go thru the
>> normal OASIS process.
>>
>> One good place to start is an adoption and setup
>> guide.  What it takes to install, configure and operate
>> each system, and what types of content get stored.
>>
>> Right there I believe we can see alot of the business
>> differences.
>>
>> Thanks, DW.
>> ===================================================
>> Message text written by Anne Thomas Manes
>>>
>> IMHO, it hurts us to have two competing standards. Convergence would 
>> be a
>> good thing. I don't expect it to be easy, though.
>>
>> Anne<
>>
>
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