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Subject: RE: [regrep] Issues with extramural Association
matt, all good notions. that is why I strongly urge you to resolve this completely within an appropriate sub-committee and bring a complete well throughout and documented proposal to the regrep tc. there is no hurry to rush to include half-baked ideas. let quality and completeness be your guide now, not milestones. joel -----Original Message----- From: Matthew MacKenzie [mailto:matt@xmlglobal.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:41 AM To: Munter, Joel D Cc: 'Farrukh Najmi'; regrep@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [regrep] Issues with extramural Association Joel, You have a strange way of lurking :-) How about some sort of configuration attribute in the organization definition which toggles this behavior? I like being able to give the option on a installation to installation basis. For example, our registry is used in one place where organizations are used to represent departments or some internal partitioning scheme. In this case, I want associations to be quick and easy. Its also used in a place where multiple organizations maintain their own profile, much like a typical UDDI installation. I would want strict association in that particular case so that copyright and ownership of information doesn't become an issue. -Matt On Tuesday, October 8, 2002, at 10:21 AM, Munter, Joel D wrote: > > Although I have no official standing in this TC, as an observer and > previous > participant, I voice strong objection to this proposal. The argument > that > it is "...too much of a burden to keep up with..." is weak. I would > not > want someone to stake a claim to having some association to my company > and > force me to do something about it to keep that invisible. I think that > acceptance of this proposal negates and undermines the entire purpose > of > associations. I strongly suggest that you look at this much more > thoroughly > and offer a more complete proposal for resolution. Maybe there is a > way to > make it easier on the users. e.g., Send a note/message to the target > partner key contact when an assertion is made and offers a time limit > for > the response with a default state of deny. > > Joel (still lurking) Munter > Intel Corporation > > -----Original Message----- > From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:40 AM > To: regrep@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: [regrep] Issues with extramural Association > > > Team, > > Based on both user and implementation experience the feedback we have > been receiving on Extramural associations is that it is too restrictive > to require that an Extramural Association (an association between > objects owned by two different parties) must be confirmed by both > parties before it is visible to the general public. The problem is that > it is too much of a burden for parties to keep up with the confirmation > task. Another problem is that hiding unconfirmed associations is > difficult to implement and quite inefficient. > > I would like to propose that we make the following changes in V3 > regarding Extramural Associations: > > -Extramural Associations that have not been confirmed must be visible > to > all and should not be invisible > > Note that anyone can still see the attributes isConfirmedBySourceOwner > and isConfirmedByTargetOwner to determine the confirmation status and > decide whether they trust this Association or not. > > The proposed change is quite simple to spec, will make the registry > more > user friendly and will also greatly simplify implementation. It can be > done ijn a backward compatible way with no schema canges required. > > Please share your thoughts. > > -- > Regards, > Farrukh > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription > manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription > manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>
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