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Subject: RE: [regrep] Issues with extramural Association



As I have many times before with this TC, I have stated strong objections to
a proposal and offered pretty good reasons for doing so.  imho, for the
reasons previously stated, "yet to be approved" associations should never be
visible.  I will not be swayed by email exchanges and look forward to
reviewing a well thought out and reasoned approach to real and perceived
problems.

Joel

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew MacKenzie [mailto:matt@xmlglobal.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:12 AM
To: regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [regrep] Issues with extramural Association


Joel,

One thing to consider is that Farrukh's proposal suggests that 
yet-to-be-approved associations be visible, but there is still a means 
to determine whether both organizations have accepted the association.

The specification could merely specify that associations that are not 
yet approved must be represented as such in any user interface.  I'm 
not sure if this suggestion is kludgy or not, but I think it would be 
sufficient.

Cheers,

Matt

On Tuesday, October 8, 2002, at 10:55  AM, Farrukh Najmi wrote:

>
>
> Munter, Joel D wrote:
>
>> I would not
>> want someone to stake a claim to having some association to my 
>> company and
>> force me to do something about it to keep that invisible.
>
> Just to clarify...
>
> Under the proposed change all Associations will always be visible to 
> everyone (barring a custom Access Control Policy). Any viewer will be 
> able to access for themselves whether t he Association is confirmed 
> and by which parties. Specifically, there will be no ability under the 
> proposal for Party A to "do something" that would "keep that 
> (Association) invisible".
>
> The proposal essentially says: "Label the product and let the buyer be 
> aware". To use an analogy the V2 way would mean that cigarrete stores 
> would have to hide cigarretes from the eyes pregnant women and teh 
> proposed change would mean that they can display it in full sight of 
> teh pregnant women as long as there is a label that says that pregnant 
> women are at risk for using that product.
>
> Hope the anology makes things clearer.
>
>
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