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Subject: RE: [regrep] Implementing CCTS in Registry - further thoughts


Were you a diplomat in a previous life? That sounds like an excellent compromise.

Sally

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew MacKenzie [mailto:matt@mac-kenzie.net]
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 3:24 PM
To: Dave Welsh
Cc: Duane Nickull; Farrukh Najmi; Fuger, Sally; Chiusano Joseph; David
RR Webber - XML ebusiness; OASIS Registry List
Subject: Re: [regrep] Implementing CCTS in Registry - further thoughts


I think I am a moderate in this debate, because I think the proper 
course of action involves acknowledging CCTS (or a serialization format 
therof) in the specification by including a non-normative appendix 
containing a content indexing stylesheet (which I will take an AI on).

The benefit of doing this is that we do not compromise the architecture 
by doing it, and we get to explicitly mention CCTS in the specification 
which should make some people happy.  I think Farrukh even has a CPPA 
content indexing stylesheet hanging around, so we would not be playing 
favorites.

What does everyone think?

-Matt

Dave Welsh wrote:

>-1
>
>I can imagine that not making the essential business artifacts 1st class
>might sound technically nice but we are trying to enable business.
>
>I think there will be a set of business focused use case 'asks' for
>specialized business services we'd hope the Registry will provide; to
>make the business experience even more effective. Therefore, in the
>interest of the business community, I'd like to suggest waiting for the
>CC and BP teams input before passing any judgment. 
>
>Dave
>
>
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Duane Nickull [mailto:duane@xmlglobal.com]
>>Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 11:58 AM
>>To: Farrukh Najmi
>>Cc: Fuger, Sally; Chiusano Joseph; David RR Webber - XML ebusiness;
>>    
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>OASIS
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>>Registry List
>>
>>+1
>>
>>Farrukh Najmi wrote:
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>>>Your suggestion has definitely crossed my mind. I have asked myself:
>>>"maybe CCTS, BPSS, CPP/A are special and maybe we should give them
>>>      
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>first
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>>>class status?"
>>>
>>>After careful analysis I feel that it would be a mistake to give
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>them
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>>>first class status no matter how "integral" a part of ebXML they
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>are. We
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>>>still must not have a tight coupling to them in ebXML Registry. Here
>>>      
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>are
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>>>some reasons why not:
>>>
>>>-It is not necessary. No use case has been articulated that cannot
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>be
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>>>met without having a binding to the generic ebXML Registry as it is
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>>today.
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>>>-It violates ebXML Architecture's goal of avoiding tight dependency
>>>between ebXMl specs (Duane can remind us of the exact verbiage I am
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>>sure)
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>>>-It is not a good design. A good design keeps layers one spec on
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>another
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>>>and avoids a circular dependency. CCTS should depend on ebXML
>>>      
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>Registry
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>>>(which is a foundational spec) but not the other way around.
>>>
>>>-It tells others non-ebXML specs (e.g. HL7, OGC, OAG, etc.) to "do
>>>      
>>>
>as we
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>>>say, not as we do". That would not only be be hypocritical it would
>>>create complexity due to special case handling resulting in creating
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>two
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>>>ways of doing the same thing.
>>>
>>>I feel that this issue cuts to the very essence of the core
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>philosophy
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>>>of our ebXML Registry specifications (extensible, generic,
>>>content-neutral architecture) and urge that we reach a common
>>>understanding on this issue soon. To that end I propose that we make
>>>this the main/sole agenda item for our next TC meeting.
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>--
>>VP Strategic Relations,
>>Technologies Evangelist
>>XML Global Technologies
>>****************************
>>ebXML software downloads - http://www.xmlglobal.com/prod/
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