Re: [regrep] ebXML and Web Services: Is this a fair assessment?

["David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>]

Kathryn,

I think some of this history stuff is best left in the past!  ; -)

We had some real fun in those early Registry meetings!!

Anyway - the main thrust and change occured when Bob Sutor decided
to launch the UDDI work separate from ebXML and shortly after that
IBM changed its status in ebXML from active to passive.

The W3C also has some good notes on the history of the term "web services"
and work that got started within the W3C.

BTW - there was no technical reasons why this divergence through UDDI took
place.

DW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Breininger, Kathryn R" <kathryn.r.breininger@boeing.com>
To: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>;
<regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 7:56 PM
Subject: RE: [regrep] ebXML and Web Services: Is this a fair assessment?


Joe,
Here is a little background:
The Registry TC was originally formed in 1999 and developed an ebXML
registry and Repository technical specification v1.0 in May 2000.  Version
1.1 was published December 20, 2000, and was discussed in Vancouver BC in
February 2001. I think Sally is the only TC member who has been with the TC
since the version 1.0 version was done in May 2000.  So, historically
speaking, your first statement is probably accurate (not knowing when web
services became prominent...).

David's comments also provide additional clarity.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 1:39 PM
To: regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [regrep] ebXML and Web Services: Is this a fair assessment?


All,

I was not involved in ebXML until after May 2001 (although I monitered
various listservs prior to that), so I don't have as solid an
appreciation as I would like regarding ebXML and Web Services. Can
someone please tell me if the following is a fair assessment - my
intention is to be as accurate as possible, and not controversial (I've
numbered the points below for easy referral):

(1) The ebXML initiative began before Web Services became prominent;
therefore there are many aspects of ebXML that do not utilize Web
Services to as full a potential as they may have otherwise.

(2) For example, the emerging OASIS Web Services Business Process
Execution Language (WS BPEL) is centered on the Web Services hierarchy
presented in WSDL (portType, operation, message, etc.) while the ebXML
Business Process Schema Specification (BPSS) is centered on the concept
of "business documents".

(3) An exception to this is the ebXML Messaging Service (ebMS)
specification, whose foundation is SOAP.

(4) However, many of the ebXML specifications have incorporated Web
Services since their original version - one example is the inclusion of
a SOAP interface to ebXML Registry in its 2.0 version.

Thanks,
Joe

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