Re: [regrep] ebXML and Web Services: Is this a fair assessment?

["Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>]

Kathryn and David (or is it Sally and Duane?;),

Thanks to both of you for your very helpful responses.

Joe

David RR Webber wrote:
> 
> Kathryn,
> 
> I think some of this history stuff is best left in the past!  ; -)
> 
> We had some real fun in those early Registry meetings!!
> 
> Anyway - the main thrust and change occured when Bob Sutor decided
> to launch the UDDI work separate from ebXML and shortly after that
> IBM changed its status in ebXML from active to passive.
> 
> The W3C also has some good notes on the history of the term "web services"
> and work that got started within the W3C.
> 
> BTW - there was no technical reasons why this divergence through UDDI took
> place.
> 
> DW
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Breininger, Kathryn R" <kathryn.r.breininger@boeing.com>
> To: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>;
> <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 7:56 PM
> Subject: RE: [regrep] ebXML and Web Services: Is this a fair assessment?
> 
> Joe,
> Here is a little background:
> The Registry TC was originally formed in 1999 and developed an ebXML
> registry and Repository technical specification v1.0 in May 2000.  Version
> 1.1 was published December 20, 2000, and was discussed in Vancouver BC in
> February 2001. I think Sally is the only TC member who has been with the TC
> since the version 1.0 version was done in May 2000.  So, historically
> speaking, your first statement is probably accurate (not knowing when web
> services became prominent...).
> 
> David's comments also provide additional clarity.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 1:39 PM
> To: regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [regrep] ebXML and Web Services: Is this a fair assessment?
> 
> All,
> 
> I was not involved in ebXML until after May 2001 (although I monitered
> various listservs prior to that), so I don't have as solid an
> appreciation as I would like regarding ebXML and Web Services. Can
> someone please tell me if the following is a fair assessment - my
> intention is to be as accurate as possible, and not controversial (I've
> numbered the points below for easy referral):
> 
> (1) The ebXML initiative began before Web Services became prominent;
> therefore there are many aspects of ebXML that do not utilize Web
> Services to as full a potential as they may have otherwise.
> 
> (2) For example, the emerging OASIS Web Services Business Process
> Execution Language (WS BPEL) is centered on the Web Services hierarchy
> presented in WSDL (portType, operation, message, etc.) while the ebXML
> Business Process Schema Specification (BPSS) is centered on the concept
> of "business documents".
> 
> (3) An exception to this is the ebXML Messaging Service (ebMS)
> specification, whose foundation is SOAP.
> 
> (4) However, many of the ebXML specifications have incorporated Web
> Services since their original version - one example is the inclusion of
> a SOAP interface to ebXML Registry in its 2.0 version.
> 
> Thanks,
> Joe
> 
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