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Subject: Re: [regrep] [Fwd: [regrep-semantic] IBM BI-ICS]


Anne,

There certainly are no hard and fast rules around standards.

However - I suspect we often clarify this by using metrics
that denote when things are clearly NOT an open standard -
such as license fees, use agreements and solely own
implementations.  One also expects good neighbour
behaviours and contributions to the better good - rather
than hidden agendas and clear attempts to bait-and-hook
or displace one practice with another.

So - when something is obviously the equivalent of open
source - and indeed much open source itself - then it
has the possiblity of becoming recognized as a de facto
standard.  I'd say your WS-Addressing is looking
like coming under this umbrella.

The one that I always like to reference is PKZIP of
course that is the exception that proves the rule(s).

Thanks, DW.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anne Thomas Manes" <anne@manes.net>
To: "Monica J. Martin" <Monica.Martin@Sun.COM>; "Chiusano Joseph"
<chiusano_joseph@bah.com>
Cc: "Farrukh Najmi" <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM>; <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: [regrep] [Fwd: [regrep-semantic] IBM BI-ICS]


> For the most part I prefer to reference standards works as opposed to
> private works, but I make exception for some things -- especially when
they
> provide essential functionality AND when they contain an open copyright
> notice. Such is the case with WS-Addressing.
>
> WS-Addressing provides essential functionality -- a standard mechanism to
> reference a Web service endpoint. In my opinion, it's one of the most
> critical WS specifications published last year. I am not aware of any
> competitive effort that is currently defining this type of mechanism.
>
> And I suggest you read the copyright notice [1]. It the most open spec
> notice I've ever seen.
>
> [1]
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnglobspec/html/ws-addressing.asp
>
> Anne
>
>
> At 11:01 PM 3/18/2004, Monica J. Martin wrote:
>
> >>>Chiusano: I completely agree - a perfect example is WS-Addressing,
which is
> >>>referred to in multiple emerging open specifications (too numerous to
> >>>mention).
> >>
> >>mm1: WS-Addressing is an emerging specification. It is not open (only
> >>available on a web site).
> >
> >mm2: Correction, I misread your sentence Joe. There are at least two
> >specifications in an open standards organization that do reference
> >WS-Addressing. Thanks.
> >
> >
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