[regrep] Re: [ebsoa] Re: [regrep] 20 reasons why web services arelike Paris Hilton

[Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com>]

Let's start with specific chapter and verse for these shall we?

Interoperability or lack thereof between various specifications/standards?

Interoperability or lack thereof between various Web Services-based 
application frameworks?

Addressing specifics is perhaps more helpful than simply decrying the 
current state of affairs, so a list of these would be an adequate 
basis for discussing ways in which interoperabiity could be improved 
or established where it is lacking.

Also, where there are conflicts, it seems to me that making it known 
is a reasonable place to begin a dialog between the adherents of 
conflicting mechanisms, standards, specifications.

Ciao,
Rex

At 9:15 AM -0500 3/26/04, Chiusano Joseph wrote:
>Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
>>
>>  I just wish the web services picture was a bit clearer and in focus.
>Matt,
>
>What aspects of the "Web Services picture" might you be referring to?
>The current and emerging standards/specifications? The overlaps
>between/within consortiums? Interoperability or lack thereof between
>various specifications/standards? Interoperability or lack thereof
>between various Web Services-based application frameworks?
>
>The list goes on...
>
>Joe
>
>>  I'm sure there is something interesting to see there, its just 
>>too > dark and out of focus.
>>
>>  :-)
>>
>>  On Mar 25, 2004, at 8:16 PM, David RR Webber wrote:
>>
>>       Joe,
>>
>>       The most irreverent answer!
>>
>>       #20 - everyone is talking about web services
>>       #19 - there are more people thinking about web services than doing them
>>       #18 - web service articles are everywhere in magazines - but noone is
>>       quite certain about the accuracy of the details in them
>>       #17 - proven benefits of web services are hard to show but if 
>>people see
>>       you doing web services they will try and mingle in with your group
>>       #16 - everyones trying to figure out how they can cash-in on 
>>web services
>>       #15 - web services sound and look young, tight and amazing in 
>>the glossy
>>       magazines
>>       #14 - web services can change their look rapidly and without warning
>>       #13 - everyone has their own ideas about how they'd like to 
>>do web services
>>       #12 - its hard to describe to your neighbours what you are 
>>doing with web
>>       services
>>       #11 - people who are not really doing web services will say 
>>they are anyway
>>       #10 - a lot of rich people and PR machines are behind web services
>>       #9 - web services looks like its just life on a beach but in 
>>reality its
>>       much more
>>       confusing and complex than that
>>       #8 - the long term consequences of doing web services could 
>>result in some
>>       unforeseen side effects from things that might be revelled later that
>>       took
>>       place earlier that you did not know about
>>       #7 - getting a legal agreement before doing web services is 
>>really tough,
>>       most people are doing it anyway while they have the chance and
>>       hoping it will all be alright later
>>       #6 - web services are all over the internet and in junk mail
>>       #5 - web services are young, make a lot of noise, and some of 
>>the things
>>       they do are crude and shocking
>>       #4 - doing things with web services probably means alot of late nights
>>       and having to fix up messy loose ends before someone notices
>>       #3 - there is no standard way of doing web services but 
>>people will take
>>       anything that web services are doing and then sell them for as much
>>       as they can get
>>       #2 - web services are trying to become things that they are 
>>not, but would
>>       like to be somehow
>>       #1 - web services can do absolutely anything you want them to 
>>do - and in
>>       ways you never even thought possible.
>>
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