Re: [regrep] RIMv2.6 Review, Sections 6-7

["David Webber \(XML\)" <david@drrw.info>]

Joe,

AutoMakerOne, AutoMakerTwo, AutoMakerThree, etc.

Thanks, DW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Farrukh Najmi" <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM>
To: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>
Cc: <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [regrep] RIMv2.6 Review, Sections 6-7


> Chiusano Joseph wrote:
>
> >I know this is probably over-the-top regarding political sensitivity,
> >but:
> >
> >Regarding "FortMotorCompany", which is close to FordMotorCompany": Any
> >issues with (sort-of) referencing only one of the Big 3 US automakers by
> >name? If so, we can use something more generic like "USMotorCompany".
> >
> >
> Actually I had reference all 3:
>
> Ford Motor Compnay => FortMotorCompany
> General Motors Corporation => GentleMotorsCorporation
> DaimlerChrysler => DaintyChrystalAutoInc
>
> Maybe the others were not as obvious but the spirit of equal treatment
> was certainly there.
>
> >If this is too much, please feel free to say "make it stop!". :)
> >
> >Kind Regards,
> >Joseph Chiusano
> >Booz Allen Hamilton
> >Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM]
> >>Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 9:25 PM
> >>To: regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
> >>Subject: Re: [regrep] RIMv2.6 Review, Sections 6-7
> >>
> >>Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>What about option 3: replace the offensive names with something not
> >>>offensive?
> >>>
> >>>fooTruckAndMotor, bazEuroCar, barCo.
> >>>
> >>>I drive a European car, and I hate the 'y' word.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Thanks for the suggestion Matt. I took the spirit of your
> >>idea and have teh following names in the spec at present:
> >>
> >>FortMotorCompany, GentleMotorsCorporation,
> >>DaintyChrystalAutoInc and EuroAutoInc.
> >>
> >>The first 2 are classified by US, DaintyChrystalAutoInc is
> >>classified by both US and Europe while EuroAutoInc  is
> >>classified by Europe.
> >>
> >>None of the names are intended to be an insult, are an
> >>attempt to relate to a familiar dominant Auto company without
> >>using their actual names.
> >>
> >>Hope this is adequate resolution of this issue. Thanks for the ideas.
> >>See attached diagram.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>-matt
> >>>
> >>>On 30-Dec-04, at 6:35 PM, Farrukh Najmi wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>ewallace@cme.nist.gov wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Farrukh wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I agree with your concern here with names like gasGuzzlersInc,
> >>>>>>yourDadsCarInc, bigBadAutoInc and yuppyEuroAutoInc being
> >>>>>>potentially  offensive to someone.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>While I believe that political sensitivity is often taken
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>too far*,
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>in this case these terms are blatantly offensive and clearly
> >>>>>inappropriate for a public specification related to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>eBusiness (let
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>alone something that is to be part of an official International
> >>>>>Standard).
> >>>>>* Yes, the structure of this was meant to echo Joe's
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>comment while
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>at the same time the content stands in stark contrast.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-Evan
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>I understand the concern. So what are the alternatives to resolve
> >>>>this  issue?
> >>>>
> >>>>I propose that we do one of the following:
> >>>>
> >>>>1. Keep the example as is
> >>>>
> >>>>2. Replace Auto Co. names with Ford, GM, Chrylsler and BMW like it
> >>>>used to be in the earliest versions of the spec and was
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>changed due
> >>
> >>
> >>>>to concern regarding using real company names.
> >>>>
> >>>>PS: It appears we are on track for posting the
> >>>>regrep-rim-3.0-draft-01  and regrep-rs-3.0-draft-01 and
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>accompanying
> >>
> >>
> >>>>files early in the week of  January 3rd consistent with our latest
> >>>>plans.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Happy new year to all.
> >>>>
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> >>>>Regards,
> >>>>Farrukh
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> >>Farrukh
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