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Subject: Re: [regrep] RIMv2.6 Review, Sections 6-7
expecially since you have made the equaility statement in this email which will be archived ;-) David Webber (XML) wrote: >Joe, > >AutoMakerOne, AutoMakerTwo, AutoMakerThree, etc. > >Thanks, DW > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Farrukh Najmi" <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM> >To: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com> >Cc: <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org> >Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:39 PM >Subject: Re: [regrep] RIMv2.6 Review, Sections 6-7 > > > > >>Chiusano Joseph wrote: >> >> >> >>>I know this is probably over-the-top regarding political sensitivity, >>>but: >>> >>>Regarding "FortMotorCompany", which is close to FordMotorCompany": Any >>>issues with (sort-of) referencing only one of the Big 3 US automakers by >>>name? If so, we can use something more generic like "USMotorCompany". >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Actually I had reference all 3: >> >>Ford Motor Compnay => FortMotorCompany >>General Motors Corporation => GentleMotorsCorporation >>DaimlerChrysler => DaintyChrystalAutoInc >> >>Maybe the others were not as obvious but the spirit of equal treatment >>was certainly there. >> >> >> >>>If this is too much, please feel free to say "make it stop!". :) >>> >>>Kind Regards, >>>Joseph Chiusano >>>Booz Allen Hamilton >>>Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM] >>>>Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 9:25 PM >>>>To: regrep@lists.oasis-open.org >>>>Subject: Re: [regrep] RIMv2.6 Review, Sections 6-7 >>>> >>>>Matthew MacKenzie wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>What about option 3: replace the offensive names with something not >>>>>offensive? >>>>> >>>>>fooTruckAndMotor, bazEuroCar, barCo. >>>>> >>>>>I drive a European car, and I hate the 'y' word. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Thanks for the suggestion Matt. I took the spirit of your >>>>idea and have teh following names in the spec at present: >>>> >>>>FortMotorCompany, GentleMotorsCorporation, >>>>DaintyChrystalAutoInc and EuroAutoInc. >>>> >>>>The first 2 are classified by US, DaintyChrystalAutoInc is >>>>classified by both US and Europe while EuroAutoInc is >>>>classified by Europe. >>>> >>>>None of the names are intended to be an insult, are an >>>>attempt to relate to a familiar dominant Auto company without >>>>using their actual names. >>>> >>>>Hope this is adequate resolution of this issue. Thanks for the ideas. >>>>See attached diagram. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>-matt >>>>> >>>>>On 30-Dec-04, at 6:35 PM, Farrukh Najmi wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>ewallace@cme.nist.gov wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Farrukh wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I agree with your concern here with names like gasGuzzlersInc, >>>>>>>>yourDadsCarInc, bigBadAutoInc and yuppyEuroAutoInc being >>>>>>>>potentially offensive to someone. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>While I believe that political sensitivity is often taken >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>too far*, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>in this case these terms are blatantly offensive and clearly >>>>>>>inappropriate for a public specification related to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>eBusiness (let >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>alone something that is to be part of an official International >>>>>>>Standard). >>>>>>>* Yes, the structure of this was meant to echo Joe's >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>comment while >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>at the same time the content stands in stark contrast. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-Evan >>>>>>> >>>>>>>To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the >>>>>>>roster of the OASIS TC), go to >>>>>>>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/ >>>>>>>leave_workgroup.php. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>I understand the concern. So what are the alternatives to resolve >>>>>>this issue? >>>>>> >>>>>>I propose that we do one of the following: >>>>>> >>>>>>1. Keep the example as is >>>>>> >>>>>>2. Replace Auto Co. names with Ford, GM, Chrylsler and BMW like it >>>>>>used to be in the earliest versions of the spec and was >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>changed due >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>to concern regarding using real company names. >>>>>> >>>>>>PS: It appears we are on track for posting the >>>>>>regrep-rim-3.0-draft-01 and regrep-rs-3.0-draft-01 and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>accompanying >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>files early in the week of January 3rd consistent with our latest >>>>>>plans. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Happy new year to all. >>>>>> >>>>>>-- >>>>>>Regards, >>>>>>Farrukh >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>the roster >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>of the OASIS TC), go to >>>>>>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/ >>>>>>leave_workgroup.php. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>the roster >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>of the OASIS TC), go to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/le >>>>ave_workgroup.php. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>-- >>>>Regards, >>>>Farrukh >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of >>> >>> >the OASIS TC), go to >http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/leave_workgroup.php. > > >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Regards, >>Farrukh >> >> >>To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of >> >> >the OASIS TC), go to >http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/leave_workgroup.php. > > >> >> >> > > > >To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/leave_workgroup.php. > > > -- *********** Senior Standards Strategist - Adobe Systems, Inc. - http://www.adobe.com Vice Chair - UN/CEFACT Bureau Plenary - http://www.unece.org/cefact/ Chair - OASIS eb SOA TC - http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ebsoa ***********
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