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Subject: Re: [regrep] RIMv2.6 Review, Sections 6-7


expecially since you have made the equaility statement in this email 
which will be archived

;-)



David Webber (XML) wrote:

>Joe,
>
>AutoMakerOne, AutoMakerTwo, AutoMakerThree, etc.
>
>Thanks, DW
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Farrukh Najmi" <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM>
>To: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>
>Cc: <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [regrep] RIMv2.6 Review, Sections 6-7
>
>
>  
>
>>Chiusano Joseph wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>I know this is probably over-the-top regarding political sensitivity,
>>>but:
>>>
>>>Regarding "FortMotorCompany", which is close to FordMotorCompany": Any
>>>issues with (sort-of) referencing only one of the Big 3 US automakers by
>>>name? If so, we can use something more generic like "USMotorCompany".
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Actually I had reference all 3:
>>
>>Ford Motor Compnay => FortMotorCompany
>>General Motors Corporation => GentleMotorsCorporation
>>DaimlerChrysler => DaintyChrystalAutoInc
>>
>>Maybe the others were not as obvious but the spirit of equal treatment
>>was certainly there.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>If this is too much, please feel free to say "make it stop!". :)
>>>
>>>Kind Regards,
>>>Joseph Chiusano
>>>Booz Allen Hamilton
>>>Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM]
>>>>Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 9:25 PM
>>>>To: regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
>>>>Subject: Re: [regrep] RIMv2.6 Review, Sections 6-7
>>>>
>>>>Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>What about option 3: replace the offensive names with something not
>>>>>offensive?
>>>>>
>>>>>fooTruckAndMotor, bazEuroCar, barCo.
>>>>>
>>>>>I drive a European car, and I hate the 'y' word.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the suggestion Matt. I took the spirit of your
>>>>idea and have teh following names in the spec at present:
>>>>
>>>>FortMotorCompany, GentleMotorsCorporation,
>>>>DaintyChrystalAutoInc and EuroAutoInc.
>>>>
>>>>The first 2 are classified by US, DaintyChrystalAutoInc is
>>>>classified by both US and Europe while EuroAutoInc  is
>>>>classified by Europe.
>>>>
>>>>None of the names are intended to be an insult, are an
>>>>attempt to relate to a familiar dominant Auto company without
>>>>using their actual names.
>>>>
>>>>Hope this is adequate resolution of this issue. Thanks for the ideas.
>>>>See attached diagram.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>-matt
>>>>>
>>>>>On 30-Dec-04, at 6:35 PM, Farrukh Najmi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>ewallace@cme.nist.gov wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Farrukh wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I agree with your concern here with names like gasGuzzlersInc,
>>>>>>>>yourDadsCarInc, bigBadAutoInc and yuppyEuroAutoInc being
>>>>>>>>potentially  offensive to someone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>While I believe that political sensitivity is often taken
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>too far*,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>in this case these terms are blatantly offensive and clearly
>>>>>>>inappropriate for a public specification related to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>eBusiness (let
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>alone something that is to be part of an official International
>>>>>>>Standard).
>>>>>>>* Yes, the structure of this was meant to echo Joe's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>comment while
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>at the same time the content stands in stark contrast.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-Evan
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I understand the concern. So what are the alternatives to resolve
>>>>>>this  issue?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I propose that we do one of the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. Keep the example as is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>2. Replace Auto Co. names with Ford, GM, Chrylsler and BMW like it
>>>>>>used to be in the earliest versions of the spec and was
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>changed due
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>to concern regarding using real company names.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>PS: It appears we are on track for posting the
>>>>>>regrep-rim-3.0-draft-01  and regrep-rs-3.0-draft-01 and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>accompanying
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>files early in the week of  January 3rd consistent with our latest
>>>>>>plans.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Happy new year to all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>Farrukh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>-- 
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Farrukh
>>>>
>>>>
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>>Farrukh
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