Re: [regrep] Update on Spec approval process

[Farrukh Najmi <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM>]

Matthew MacKenzie wrote:

> Farrukh,
>
> I feel that you are rushing this too much.  You need to give some of 
> us a breather to go back and make comments and make thoughtful 
> suggestions.
>
> I have not attended any of these review telecons because I felt that 
> the process was being pushed way too hard.  You need to give 
> reasonable time for those of us who are not full time on this 
> standard.  I understand that you are anxious to move to the next 
> release, however, I am much more interested in seeing a slow and 
> stable release cycle with extremely well reviewed products at each 
> release.
>
Fair comment Matt. Not every is able to spend the same amount of time on 
this.

I cant help thinking though, that:

-The specs have been out for a month since draft 01 was published. We 
received many good comments and have addressed them. At this point the 
comments are drying out.

-We have momentum now and the TC is energetically engaged. All we needs 
is a joint push to deliver this baby.

Of course whatever next steps we take will be decided as a team in 
tomorrow's con call.

As always, thanks for your candid feedback.


> -Matt
>
> Farrukh Najmi wrote:
>
>> Dear TC members,
>>
>> I have been educating myself on the OASIS Standards Approval Process 
>> [1].
>>
>> I learned a few relevant an interesting points undre the current rules:
>>
>> 1. A TC *CAN* give TC Approved status to a spec by voice vote in a TC 
>> telecon meeting. This can be done either by
>>
>> (a) roll call or
>> (b) voice vote ("all those in favor..." etc.)
>>
>> followed by chair indicating his/her judgment that numbers were met 
>> (sufficient "yes"s, and no more "nos" than rule permits)
>> at which time members can accept that judgment or challenge the 
>> conclusion (by asking for a roll call).
>>
>> 2. The same voting process is allowed for the vote to send a TC 
>> APproved spec for public review.
>>
>> 3. Neither vote requires a electronic ballot or a 2 week period.
>>
>> 4. The current process allows the "TC Approval" vote and the "Send to 
>> Public Review" vote to occur in the same TC telecon meeting.
>>
>> I have already validated my interpretation of [1] with my colleague 
>> Eduardo Gutentag <eduardo.gutentag@sun.com> to make sure I did not 
>> misunderstand anything.
>>
>> Being a pathelogical optmist I would like to propose that we make 
>> every effort to have a very high turnout of TC members for tomorrow's 
>> meeting so that we can have everyone's vote count if we choose to 
>> have one or both votes tomorrow. Please do your best to attend and 
>> attend on time. Thanks.
>>
>> [1] Standards Approval Process
>> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#standards_approval
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Subject:
>> Re: Question on spec approval process
>> From:
>> James Bryce Clark <jamie.clark@oasis-open.org>
>> Date:
>> Wed, 02 Feb 2005 15:26:41 -0800
>> To:
>> Farrukh Najmi <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM>
>>
>> To:
>> Farrukh Najmi <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM>
>>
>>
>>    Responses below.  Best regards  JBC
>>
>> At 02:43 PM 2/2/2005, Farrukh Najmi wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jamie,
>>> As I a sure you are already aware, the ebXML Registry 3.0 specs are 
>>> nearing Committee Draft status.
>>> I have the following question on the standards approval process [1]
>>> -Can a TC give TC Approved status to a spec by voice vote in a TC 
>>> telecon meeting (assuming necessary votes were met and duly recorded 
>>> in TC meeting minutes) ?
>>
>>
>>
>>     Under current rules, yes.  If unanimous, minutes should say so 
>> and note attendance.  If not, minutes should clearly reflect that the 
>> necessary minimums were met. This can be done either by (a) roll call 
>> or (b) voice vote ("all those in favor..." etc.) followed by chair 
>> indicating his/her judgment that numbers were met (sufficient "yes"s, 
>> and no more "nos" than rule permits) -- at which time members can 
>> accept that judgment or challenge the conclusion (by asking for a 
>> roll call).
>>
>>> - Once a spec is TC approved, can a TC decide to submit it for 
>>> public review by voice vote in a TC telecon meeting (assuming 
>>> necessary votes were met and duly recorded in TC meeting minutes) ?
>>
>>
>>
>>     Yes.
>>
>>> - Can the TC Approval vote, and the vote to send TC approved spec to 
>>> public review, be conducted by 2 separate voice votes in the same TC 
>>> telecon meeting ?
>>
>>
>>
>>     Yes.
>>
>>> My apologies in advance if some of these questions are covered by 
>>> [1] already. If not you may consider clarifying in a future version. 
>>> Thanks very much for your help.
>>> [1] Standards Approval Process
>>> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#standards_approval
>>> -- 
>>> Regards,
>>> Farrukh
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>


-- 
Regards,
Farrukh