Re: [regrep] Update on Spec approval process

["David Webber \(XML\)" <david@drrw.info>]

As the Americans would say - feels like the bottom of the eight.
Or as the English would say - we're into the final days'
play here and we're not bowling anymore than 75 overs and
that's your lot!

DW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Farrukh Najmi" <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM>
To: <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [regrep] Update on Spec approval process


> Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
>
> > Farrukh,
> >
> > I feel that you are rushing this too much.  You need to give some of
> > us a breather to go back and make comments and make thoughtful
> > suggestions.
> >
> > I have not attended any of these review telecons because I felt that
> > the process was being pushed way too hard.  You need to give
> > reasonable time for those of us who are not full time on this
> > standard.  I understand that you are anxious to move to the next
> > release, however, I am much more interested in seeing a slow and
> > stable release cycle with extremely well reviewed products at each
> > release.
> >
> Fair comment Matt. Not every is able to spend the same amount of time on
> this.
>
> I cant help thinking though, that:
>
> -The specs have been out for a month since draft 01 was published. We
> received many good comments and have addressed them. At this point the
> comments are drying out.
>
> -We have momentum now and the TC is energetically engaged. All we needs
> is a joint push to deliver this baby.
>
> Of course whatever next steps we take will be decided as a team in
> tomorrow's con call.
>
> As always, thanks for your candid feedback.
>
>
> > -Matt
> >
> > Farrukh Najmi wrote:
> >
> >> Dear TC members,
> >>
> >> I have been educating myself on the OASIS Standards Approval Process
> >> [1].
> >>
> >> I learned a few relevant an interesting points undre the current rules:
> >>
> >> 1. A TC *CAN* give TC Approved status to a spec by voice vote in a TC
> >> telecon meeting. This can be done either by
> >>
> >> (a) roll call or
> >> (b) voice vote ("all those in favor..." etc.)
> >>
> >> followed by chair indicating his/her judgment that numbers were met
> >> (sufficient "yes"s, and no more "nos" than rule permits)
> >> at which time members can accept that judgment or challenge the
> >> conclusion (by asking for a roll call).
> >>
> >> 2. The same voting process is allowed for the vote to send a TC
> >> APproved spec for public review.
> >>
> >> 3. Neither vote requires a electronic ballot or a 2 week period.
> >>
> >> 4. The current process allows the "TC Approval" vote and the "Send to
> >> Public Review" vote to occur in the same TC telecon meeting.
> >>
> >> I have already validated my interpretation of [1] with my colleague
> >> Eduardo Gutentag <eduardo.gutentag@sun.com> to make sure I did not
> >> misunderstand anything.
> >>
> >> Being a pathelogical optmist I would like to propose that we make
> >> every effort to have a very high turnout of TC members for tomorrow's
> >> meeting so that we can have everyone's vote count if we choose to
> >> have one or both votes tomorrow. Please do your best to attend and
> >> attend on time. Thanks.
> >>
> >> [1] Standards Approval Process
> >> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#standards_approval
> >>
> >>
>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Subject:
> >> Re: Question on spec approval process
> >> From:
> >> James Bryce Clark <jamie.clark@oasis-open.org>
> >> Date:
> >> Wed, 02 Feb 2005 15:26:41 -0800
> >> To:
> >> Farrukh Najmi <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM>
> >>
> >> To:
> >> Farrukh Najmi <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM>
> >>
> >>
> >>    Responses below.  Best regards  JBC
> >>
> >> At 02:43 PM 2/2/2005, Farrukh Najmi wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Jamie,
> >>> As I a sure you are already aware, the ebXML Registry 3.0 specs are
> >>> nearing Committee Draft status.
> >>> I have the following question on the standards approval process [1]
> >>> -Can a TC give TC Approved status to a spec by voice vote in a TC
> >>> telecon meeting (assuming necessary votes were met and duly recorded
> >>> in TC meeting minutes) ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Under current rules, yes.  If unanimous, minutes should say so
> >> and note attendance.  If not, minutes should clearly reflect that the
> >> necessary minimums were met. This can be done either by (a) roll call
> >> or (b) voice vote ("all those in favor..." etc.) followed by chair
> >> indicating his/her judgment that numbers were met (sufficient "yes"s,
> >> and no more "nos" than rule permits) -- at which time members can
> >> accept that judgment or challenge the conclusion (by asking for a
> >> roll call).
> >>
> >>> - Once a spec is TC approved, can a TC decide to submit it for
> >>> public review by voice vote in a TC telecon meeting (assuming
> >>> necessary votes were met and duly recorded in TC meeting minutes) ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Yes.
> >>
> >>> - Can the TC Approval vote, and the vote to send TC approved spec to
> >>> public review, be conducted by 2 separate voice votes in the same TC
> >>> telecon meeting ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Yes.
> >>
> >>> My apologies in advance if some of these questions are covered by
> >>> [1] already. If not you may consider clarifying in a future version.
> >>> Thanks very much for your help.
> >>> [1] Standards Approval Process
> >>> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#standards_approval
> >>> -- 
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Farrukh
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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>
> -- 
> Regards,
> Farrukh
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