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Subject: Re: [regrep] ebXML Registry tutorial - update
I think that it is important for us to address external perception of who and what we are...so I more or less agree with Peter. Spend the time. What is our rush? 4.0 should only appear in about 2 years, so spend some time here on PR. -Matt On 2-May-05, at 6:50 AM, BEDINI Ivan RD-BIZZ-CAE wrote: > Peter, > Respectfully I disagree with this proposition. > Sincerely I think that it will take us more time than necessary and it > doesn't give us the attended feedback. > IMO only public results are really interesting for others TCs. > So it will ask more time for other people to understund and to find the > good target -> more point of view for us that we have to consider -> > more complexity added to the final solution. > (all this work only for a title :-P) > May be that it could take more sense to ask directly if there's more > specific content that we could add to the document for better helps and > simply acquire enough ackitances about registry application's > implementation. > > I think that all basis for this doc are: > 1. build a pragmatic documents for a *qick easy early* of a ebXML > registry. (IMO the specification that we build here are especially for > ebXML registry implementors and not for applications based on a > registry, final user point of view) > a. give a simple and efficient way to map a specific Information Model > to the RIM (How effectively using ebRIM specification) > b. give an example about how applications can simply implement the > registry services defined into the ebRS specifications: > - Defining Content Management Services > - Defining Domain Specific Queries > - Defining federation service > - Using the Event Notification Feature > - Defining Access Control > (How effectively using ebRS specification) > > So, IMHO the candidates could be: > > 1. "Building applications using ebXML Registry" (IMO we can leave the > decision to the future if we'll apply this document anly to "real > world" ;-) > 2. "ebXML Registry Application Profiling Framework" > 3. "A Guide for Developing Applications using the ebXML > Registry/Repository (IMO without "Industry Specific" because for > example > the CCTS profile isn't that...) > 4. "Defining ebXML Registry Application Profiles" (Simply I don't put > "content" here, only because a registry can be used only for a specific > service, for example manage access control for another application...) > > IMO the problem with pt 4 is that it may be not clear what is a > "profile" for a registry. > > After that I'm open to your proposition too :) > > thoughts?!? > > Regards, > Ivan > > Le lundi 02 mai 2005 à 01:00 -0700, Peter Kacandes a écrit : >> So I have an idea. So far it has been suggested that the material is >> highly >> technical and is intended for a highly technical audience. >> Personally, I >> think the title is meaningless and nobody will know what it's about >> from the >> title. >> >> So, what I'd like to suggest is we ask a random sampling of people >> from >> other approriate TCs what they think would be in a document with such >> a >> title without giving them any other information beyond the title >> itself. >> >> Barring that, how about something like: >> >> Primer for Consistent Mapping from Domain Specific Information Models >> to >> ebXML Registry Information Model >> >> At least that tells you something about the actual content of the >> document. >> >> Pk >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM] >> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 6:57 AM >> To: regrep@lists.oasis-open.org >> Subject: Re: [regrep] ebXML Registry tutorial - update >> >> David Webber (XML) wrote: >> >>> I know this might be a bit retro' - and technobabbly free - but >>> >>> "Building real world applications using ebXML Registry" >>> >>> >> Above title would be great for a paper of presentation on ebXML >> Registry >> (hint, hint David) but not for the proposed Profiling Framework >> document. >> >> The proposed Profiling Framework document is a highly technical >> document for >> a highly technical audience. >> The audience is expected to be even more technical than that of the >> RIM and >> RS specs. The key concepts it is covering are "Profile", "Framework", >> "Application". >> >> So far I like the following best: >> >> "ebXML Registry Application Profiling Framework" >> >> Thanks. >> >>> DW >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Richard Martell" <rmartell@galdosinc.com> >>> To: "'BEDINI Ivan RD-BIZZ-CAE'" <ivan.bedini@francetelecom.com>; >>> <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org> >>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 1:28 PM >>> Subject: RE: [regrep] ebXML Registry tutorial - update >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Some more suggestions: >>>> >>>> "ebXML Registry Profiling Framework" >>>> "Defining ebXML Registry Application Profiles" >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: BEDINI Ivan RD-BIZZ-CAE >>>>> [mailto:ivan.bedini@francetelecom.com] >>>>> Sent: Friday, 29 April, 2005 08:12 >>>>> To: regrep@lists.oasis-open.org >>>>> Subject: Re: [regrep] ebXML Registry tutorial - update >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> What is the better title for the *tutorial* technical note? >>>>> >>>>> after the yesterday meeting we have proposed something like: >>>>> "ebXML Registry Profile Development Guide" >>>>> >>>>> So please if someone of you has a better suggestion or some >>>>> negative >>>>> point for the new title, speak up now :) >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks, >>>>> Ivan >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> - >>>> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that >>>> generates this mail. 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