RE: RE : [regrep] Post-holiday registry riddle

["Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>]

> 2. if we consider all *systems* participating to the 
> execution time then the registry (that for example could be 
> queried by an ebMS system to obtain a CPA for configuring the 
> message handler while executing a BP) is a design and run time tool.

Absolutely - or, more generally, for "dynamic discovery" of services. To clarify, that would be an operation such as "Find me all services that may be used for hotel reservations, that covers the entire world, and that provides information on discounts. Now rank each hotel according to X primary criteria (e.g. cost), Y secondary criteria (e.g. certain amenities), etc.". However, the world is not yet ready for dynamic discovery to this extent (which is why we need the semantic technologies work). That is, how can one be 100% sure that a machine made the proper selections to begin with?

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: BEDINI Ivan RD-BIZZ-CAE [mailto:ivan.bedini@francetelecom.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:35 PM
> To: Farrukh Najmi; Chiusano Joseph
> Cc: ebXML Regrep; Buchinski.Ed@tbs-sct.gc.ca
> Subject: RE : [regrep] Post-holiday registry riddle
> 
> May be that my majors concerns are about what is intended by 
> runtime and designtime phases in e-business and what is 
> considered be a part of a phase.
> Generally runtime describes the operation of a computer 
> program, the duration of its execution, from beginning to 
> termination. In the e-business context, runtime cover the 
> execution time of business exchanges from beginning to 
> termination => BP execution, messages exchange. 
> The e-business designtime cover all the rest => establishment 
> of agreement, discovery, data modelisation, BP definition and 
> system configuration.
> 
> Is my interpretation correct?
> 
> By this point of view the registry could be:
> 1. just a design time tool but
> 2. if we consider all *systems* participating to the 
> execution time then the registry (that for example could be 
> queried by an ebMS system to obtain a CPA for configuring the 
> message handler while executing a BP) is a design and run time tool.
> 
> What is right for you?
> 
> 
> 
> Now I've not only a fever :-P
> 
> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM] Envoyé : 
> jeudi 5 janvier 2006 03:03 À : Chiusano Joseph Cc : BEDINI 
> Ivan RD-BIZZ-CAE; ebXML Regrep; Buchinski.Ed@tbs-sct.gc.ca 
> Objet : Re: [regrep] Post-holiday registry riddle
> 
> 
> Chiusano Joseph wrote:
> > It's riddle fever.:)
> >  
> > My answer: "design-time and run-time". I would speculate 
> that there is
> > more design-time usage out there than run-time usage; but I 
> leave it 
> > to Farrukh, Duane/Matt, Miko, Carl and others (apologies for anyone 
> > else I have forgotten) who have implementations to verify this. My 
> > hope and vision is that over time, run-time usage will equal or 
> > surpass design-time usage, as our semantic capabilities expand.
> I have seen more run time usage than design time usage in projects I 
> have been involved with. Most of these projects use the 
> registry as a n 
> information store (metadata and content) that is used at run 
> time in a 
> manner reminiscent of database in classic enterprise applications.
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Farrukh
> 
>