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Subject: RE: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar


Farrukh,
 
On review this morning seems like we have a Gartner magic quadrant in the making here around this term "system of record" solutions - no point in knocking on whether this is a good term or not - if Gartner et al have spoken then I guess we have to embrace and extend!
 
My worry was that the average person would not have much sense of what this term implies - and be turned off - but if the CIOs/CTOs are being indoctrinated on it - then the baton is then over to us to explain the complete picture from our perspective - and the value add.
 
Cheers, DW

"The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.)


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar
From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com>
Date: Sat, May 12, 2007 6:54 pm
To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info>
Cc: ebXML Regrep <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>

David,

With due respects, my main point based on seven years of intense and
focused practical deployment experience with regrep is that regrep's
main purpose in life is as a "System of Record" and that is not "just
one isolated use case for Registry". I believe that is true in
"geospatial coordination, secure patient record federation, semantic XML
content, document cataloguing, and so on".

I made it clear in my original suggestion that I will make it clear
during the presentation that RegRep's uses are way more than SOA.
However, SOA is the focus of our presentation as I recall to be agreed
by the TC.

Therefor with due respects, I still feel the following is the best title:

"
OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository
The System of Record for SOA Governace
"

If necessary, I am willing to live with:

"
OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository
The System of Record for SOA Deployments
"

David RR Webber (XML) wrote:
> Farrukh,
> My point is that "system of record" is just one isolated use case for
> Registry.
> I see that registry is being used for geospatial coordination, secure
> patient record federation, semantic XML content, document cataloguing,
> and so on.
> The SOA system of record is IMHO way too narrow here. The ebxml
> registry is not just a UDDI look-a-like for SOA as its main purpose...
> Of course the real SOA use case here is articulated by OASIS BCM
> spec's and registry model - but then we'd have to explain BCM first
; -)
> Anyway - you all are doing the present not me - I guess next time I
> can sign up to do
> "ebXML Registry - Beyond SOA System of Record"
> ; -)
> DW
>
> "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.)
>
>
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar
>     From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com>
>     Date: Sat, May 12, 2007 1:32 pm
>     To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info>
>     Cc: ebXML Regrep <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
>
>
>     Based on my customer experience, Governance is the most pressing
>     need in SOA today
>     and fortunately that is precisely where RegRep helps the most.
>
>     "Enabling" is too fuzzy and does not capture the central role that
>     RegRep plays in SOA which is
>     that it is "The System of Record" for SOA deployments. My wife
>     acuses me of being an "enabler"
>     for my children's delinquencies ;-)
>
>     You can see that point being drilled home by practically anyone
>     who is selling a SOA Repository:
>
>
>     Infravio:
>     "Create a *system of record* for your SOA metadata – policies,
>     schema, .docs, performance *..."
>     *<http://www1.webmethods.com/PDF/datasheets/Infravio_X-Registry_Datasheet.pdf>*
>
>     *Systinet:*
>     *"Systinet provides the “*system of record*” for SOA and *...*
>     Must provide the “*system* *of record*”"
>     <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/17235/Systinet%20Registry%20NASA%20Presentation%203-15-06.pdf>
>
>     IBM WSRR:
>     "In this context, *WSRR* handles the metadata management aspects
>     of operational services and provides the *system of record* of
>     these metadata artefacts "
>     <http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/sr/v6r0/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.sr.doc/cwsr_overview_overview04.html>
>
>     BEA:
>     "The BEA AquaLogic Service Registry, through an embedded
>     governance framework, acts as a central location for managing the
>     services life cycle. It makes an SOA more transparent by serving
>     as the *system of record* where services..."
>     <http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/BEAS/124821163x0x84099/9502bab0-de1a-4a7c-b20a-292459a97a24/q3BEA%20At%20A%20Glance.pdf>
>     "It provides a *system-of-record* for these policies and is used
>     to define and enforce business policies. enlarge. AquaLogic
>     Service *Registry* is employed *..."*
>     <http://es.bea.com/products/aqualogic/service_registry>
>
>     Oracle:
>     "leverage *Oracle* Service *Registry* to publish and advertise
>     services and enable *...* It also serves as the *System of Record*
>     for all. "
>     <http://www.oracle.com/technologies/soa/oracle-soa-suite-datasheet.pdf
>     >
>
>     Tibco:
>     "TIBCO ActiveMatrix *Registry* is a standards-. based *system of
>     record* for discovering, *...*"
>     <http://www.tibco.com/resources/software/soa/ds_activematrix_*registry*.pdf>
>
>     Actional:
>     "A SOA *system of record*, or *registry*, is designed to be a
>     central holding place for information about service consumers,
>     providers, policies, *...*"
>     <http://www.actional.com/resources/webinars/SOA-Lifecycle/SOA-System.html
>     >
>
>     IONA:
>     "Artix *Registry*/Repository enables customers to design, build,
>     deploy and manage a network of business services by providing a
>     complete *system of record* of *...**"*
>     <http://www.iona.com/pressroom/2007/20070326.htm >
>
>     SOA Software:
>     "All SOA Software products rely on an underlying UDDIv3 *Registry*
>     as a core repository and *system of record* for service data. The
>     product are all fully *..."
>     <*www.soa.com/index.php/section/products/*registry*_manager/>
>
>
>     For this reason I feel *very strongly* about "The System of
>     Record" part of the title as that is precisely the role of RegRep
>     in SOA.
>
>     If the term "governance" is an issue then how about:
>
>     "
>     OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository
>     The System of Record for SOA Deployments
>     "
>
>     Thanks.
>
>     David RR Webber (XML) wrote:
>>     Farrukh,
>>     You need something catchy, short and to the point -
>>     OASIS ebXML Registry Repository - enabling SOA solutions
>>     Since OASIS is the sponsor - no need to muddy the waters with
>>     inserting ISO too.
>>     Also - the aim should be to catch peoples interest - and have
>>     them attend - not drive them away!!!
>>     So your title is to specific - what if the reader thinks - "huh -
>>     my business needs are nothing to do with "governance" - my CFO
>>     just wants me to help sales of more widgets".
>>     Perhaps I do need to understand possible "SOA solutions" for that.
>>     Think marketing - not technobabble ; -)
>>     DW
>>
>>     "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.)
>>
>>
>>         -------- Original Message --------
>>         Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar
>>         From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com>
>>         Date: Fri, May 11, 2007 3:48 pm
>>         To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info>
>>         Cc: ebXML Regrep <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
>>
>>         What exactly is a "Service Oriented Arcitecture
Architectures" and how
>>         is it better than
>>         "Service Oriented Arcitecture"?
>>
>>
>>         David RR Webber (XML) wrote:
>>         > Farrukh,
>>         >  
>>         > Seems to pigeon hole you too much.
>>         >  
>>         > What about - "OASIS ebXML Registry Repository - enabling SOA
>>         > architectures.
>>         >  
>>         > DW
>>         >
>>         > "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.)
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >     -------- Original Message --------
>>         >     Subject: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar
>>         >     From: "Farrukh S. Najmi"
<farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com <#Compose>>
>>         >     Date: Fri, May 11, 2007 12:39 pm
>>         >     To: ebXML Regrep <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
<#Compose>>
>>         >
>>         >     Dear colleagues,
>>         >
>>         >     I would like to propose the following title:
>>         >
>>         >     "
>>         >     OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository
>>         >
>>         >     The System of Record for SOA Governance
>>         >     "
>>         >
>>         >     Note that "Record" in prioposed title implies any
type of
>>         information.
>>         >
>>         >     This title focuses the presentation on use of RegRep
as a SOA
>>         Repository
>>         >     and key enabler for SOA Governance.
>>         >
>>         >     We can make sure we explain upfront that RegRep can
support many
>>         other
>>         >     diverse use cases but that the
>>         >     presentation will focus on this specific one to make
it more
>>         concrete
>>         >     for this use case.
>>         >
>>         >     Please let me know what you think of the title. Also
is it too
>>         late for
>>         >     us to change to Webinar title to match whatever we
decide?
>>         >
>>         >     Carl, Nikola and I will work on the draft slides and
plan to
>>         have an
>>         >     initial slide deck for team review by next TC meeting.
>>         >     Nikola and I got start on this earlier this week.
Thanks.
>>         >
>>         >     -- 
>>         >     Regards,
>>         >     Farrukh
>>         >
>>         >     Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com
<http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/>
>>         <http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/>
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >         
>>         >
>>
>>
>>         -- 
>>         Regards,
>>         Farrukh
>>
>>         Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com
<http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/>
>>
>>
>>             
>>
>
>
>     -- 
>     Regards,
>     Farrukh
>
>     Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com
>
>         
>


-- 
Regards,
Farrukh

Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com




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