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Subject: RE: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar
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Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar
From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com>
Date: Sat, May 12, 2007 6:54 pm
To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info>
Cc: ebXML Regrep <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>David, With due respects, my main point based on seven years of intense and focused practical deployment experience with regrep is that regrep's main purpose in life is as a "System of Record" and that is not "just one isolated use case for Registry". I believe that is true in "geospatial coordination, secure patient record federation, semantic XML content, document cataloguing, and so on". I made it clear in my original suggestion that I will make it clear during the presentation that RegRep's uses are way more than SOA. However, SOA is the focus of our presentation as I recall to be agreed by the TC. Therefor with due respects, I still feel the following is the best title: " OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository The System of Record for SOA Governace " If necessary, I am willing to live with: " OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository The System of Record for SOA Deployments " David RR Webber (XML) wrote: > Farrukh, > My point is that "system of record" is just one isolated use case for > Registry. > I see that registry is being used for geospatial coordination, secure > patient record federation, semantic XML content, document cataloguing, > and so on. > The SOA system of record is IMHO way too narrow here. The ebxml > registry is not just a UDDI look-a-like for SOA as its main purpose... > Of course the real SOA use case here is articulated by OASIS BCM > spec's and registry model - but then we'd have to explain BCM first ; -) > Anyway - you all are doing the present not me - I guess next time I > can sign up to do > "ebXML Registry - Beyond SOA System of Record" > ; -) > DW > > "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.) > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar > From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com> > Date: Sat, May 12, 2007 1:32 pm > To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info> > Cc: ebXML Regrep <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org> > > > Based on my customer experience, Governance is the most pressing > need in SOA today > and fortunately that is precisely where RegRep helps the most. > > "Enabling" is too fuzzy and does not capture the central role that > RegRep plays in SOA which is > that it is "The System of Record" for SOA deployments. My wife > acuses me of being an "enabler" > for my children's delinquencies ;-) > > You can see that point being drilled home by practically anyone > who is selling a SOA Repository: > > > Infravio: > "Create a *system of record* for your SOA metadata – policies, > schema, .docs, performance *..." > *<http://www1.webmethods.com/PDF/datasheets/Infravio_X-Registry_Datasheet.pdf>* > > *Systinet:* > *"Systinet provides the “*system of record*” for SOA and *...* > Must provide the “*system* *of record*”" > <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/17235/Systinet%20Registry%20NASA%20Presentation%203-15-06.pdf> > > IBM WSRR: > "In this context, *WSRR* handles the metadata management aspects > of operational services and provides the *system of record* of > these metadata artefacts " > <http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/sr/v6r0/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.sr.doc/cwsr_overview_overview04.html> > > BEA: > "The BEA AquaLogic Service Registry, through an embedded > governance framework, acts as a central location for managing the > services life cycle. It makes an SOA more transparent by serving > as the *system of record* where services..." > <http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/BEAS/124821163x0x84099/9502bab0-de1a-4a7c-b20a-292459a97a24/q3BEA%20At%20A%20Glance.pdf> > "It provides a *system-of-record* for these policies and is used > to define and enforce business policies. enlarge. AquaLogic > Service *Registry* is employed *..."* > <http://es.bea.com/products/aqualogic/service_registry> > > Oracle: > "leverage *Oracle* Service *Registry* to publish and advertise > services and enable *...* It also serves as the *System of Record* > for all. " > <http://www.oracle.com/technologies/soa/oracle-soa-suite-datasheet.pdf > > > > Tibco: > "TIBCO ActiveMatrix *Registry* is a standards-. based *system of > record* for discovering, *...*" > <http://www.tibco.com/resources/software/soa/ds_activematrix_*registry*.pdf> > > Actional: > "A SOA *system of record*, or *registry*, is designed to be a > central holding place for information about service consumers, > providers, policies, *...*" > <http://www.actional.com/resources/webinars/SOA-Lifecycle/SOA-System.html > > > > IONA: > "Artix *Registry*/Repository enables customers to design, build, > deploy and manage a network of business services by providing a > complete *system of record* of *...**"* > <http://www.iona.com/pressroom/2007/20070326.htm > > > SOA Software: > "All SOA Software products rely on an underlying UDDIv3 *Registry* > as a core repository and *system of record* for service data. The > product are all fully *..." > <*www.soa.com/index.php/section/products/*registry*_manager/> > > > For this reason I feel *very strongly* about "The System of > Record" part of the title as that is precisely the role of RegRep > in SOA. > > If the term "governance" is an issue then how about: > > " > OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository > The System of Record for SOA Deployments > " > > Thanks. > > David RR Webber (XML) wrote: >> Farrukh, >> You need something catchy, short and to the point - >> OASIS ebXML Registry Repository - enabling SOA solutions >> Since OASIS is the sponsor - no need to muddy the waters with >> inserting ISO too. >> Also - the aim should be to catch peoples interest - and have >> them attend - not drive them away!!! >> So your title is to specific - what if the reader thinks - "huh - >> my business needs are nothing to do with "governance" - my CFO >> just wants me to help sales of more widgets". >> Perhaps I do need to understand possible "SOA solutions" for that. >> Think marketing - not technobabble ; -) >> DW >> >> "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.) >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar >> From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com> >> Date: Fri, May 11, 2007 3:48 pm >> To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info> >> Cc: ebXML Regrep <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org> >> >> What exactly is a "Service Oriented Arcitecture Architectures" and how >> is it better than >> "Service Oriented Arcitecture"? >> >> >> David RR Webber (XML) wrote: >> > Farrukh, >> > >> > Seems to pigeon hole you too much. >> > >> > What about - "OASIS ebXML Registry Repository - enabling SOA >> > architectures. >> > >> > DW >> > >> > "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.) >> > >> > >> > -------- Original Message -------- >> > Subject: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar >> > From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com <#Compose>> >> > Date: Fri, May 11, 2007 12:39 pm >> > To: ebXML Regrep <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org <#Compose>> >> > >> > Dear colleagues, >> > >> > I would like to propose the following title: >> > >> > " >> > OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository >> > >> > The System of Record for SOA Governance >> > " >> > >> > Note that "Record" in prioposed title implies any type of >> information. >> > >> > This title focuses the presentation on use of RegRep as a SOA >> Repository >> > and key enabler for SOA Governance. >> > >> > We can make sure we explain upfront that RegRep can support many >> other >> > diverse use cases but that the >> > presentation will focus on this specific one to make it more >> concrete >> > for this use case. >> > >> > Please let me know what you think of the title. Also is it too >> late for >> > us to change to Webinar title to match whatever we decide? >> > >> > Carl, Nikola and I will work on the draft slides and plan to >> have an >> > initial slide deck for team review by next TC meeting. >> > Nikola and I got start on this earlier this week. Thanks. >> > >> > -- >> > Regards, >> > Farrukh >> > >> > Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com <http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/> >> <http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Farrukh >> >> Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com <http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > Farrukh > > Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com > > > -- Regards, Farrukh Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com
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