RE: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar

["Breininger, Kathryn R" <kathryn.r.breininger@boeing.com>]

Do we have opinions on the last two proposals:

 

ebXML Registry and Repository: adoption, applications and SOA deployments

ebXML Registry and Repository: SOA, applications, deployments and governance

 

Kathryn Breininger
Boeing Library Services
425-965-0182 phone

 

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From: Carl Mattocks [mailto:cmattocks@metlife.com]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:31 AM
To: Breininger, Kathryn R
Cc: David RR Webber (XML); Farrukh S. Najmi; ebXML Regrep
Subject: RE: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar

Since the word has already got out 
... the title should highlight the proposed content

ebXML Registry and Repository:SOA, applications, deployments and governance

OASIS ebXML Registry v3.0 Standard Overview. The
> ebXML Registry Standard provides the functionality needed for
> governance and management of electronic artifacts for SOA
> deployments; it has been adopted and deployed in vertical
> industries including government, health care, geospatial,
> telecommunications, banking, and finance.

Carl Mattocks
Consultant : ITIL  Application 
Knowledge Management
MetLife 732 893 4170

'Always look on the bright 
side of life' Monty Python

"Breininger, Kathryn R" <kathryn.r.breininger@boeing.com>

05/14/2007 09:55 AM

To	"Farrukh S. Najmi" <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com>, "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info>
cc	"ebXML Regrep" <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject	RE: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar

Actually, our original title and abstract got cut down to where I 
think
we have lost a bit of what we originally intended. Originally, we 
wanted
to emphasize implementations and adoption, partly due to the 
recent
analyst reports etc that seemed to imply no one is using ebXML. 
 Our
original title was: "OASIS ebXML Registry v3.0 Standards: 
Overview,
adoption, applications, and profiles".  SOA was only part of 
what we
wanted to cover.  The key messages we wanted to get across 
were
(http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/email/archives/2007
03/msg00020.html): 
Key messages:
ebXML Registry is:

l         
        Being widely adopted and implemented in various 
industry
segments and standards, ebXML Registry broadly applicable as 
an
important infrastructure component, used in ebXML environments, 
SOA
platforms, other broad domains/spectrums
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        Numerous Profiles completed and in work (web 
services, ontology,
etc), takes advantage of extensibility

And we were 
planning to include a brief demo.  I would like to try to
maintain some 
of our original intention, as I believe implementation,
adoption and where 
and how to use are key to getting others interested
in ebXML Registry. 
 

We do definitely need to try to get something back into the 
title!!
Would this work:

ebXML Registry and Repository: adoption, 
applications and SOA
deployments  

(trying a compromise here!) 
 :-)



Kathryn Breininger
Boeing Library 
Services
425-965-0182 phone




-----Original 
Message-----
From: Farrukh S. Najmi [mailto:farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 3:55 PM
To: David RR Webber (XML)
Cc: 
ebXML Regrep
Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for 
Webinar

David,

With due respects, my main point based on seven 
years of intense and
focused practical deployment experience with regrep is 
that regrep's
main purpose in life is as a "System of Record" and that is not 
"just
one isolated use case for Registry". I believe that is true 
in
"geospatial coordination, secure patient record federation, semantic 
XML
content, document cataloguing, and so on".

I made it clear in my 
original suggestion that I will make it clear
during the presentation that 
RegRep's uses are way more than SOA.
However, SOA is the focus of our 
presentation as I recall to be agreed
by the TC.

Therefor with due 
respects, I still feel the following is the best
title:

"
OASIS 
ebXML Registry and Repository
The System of Record for SOA 
Governace
"

If necessary, I am willing to live with:

"
OASIS 
ebXML Registry and Repository
The System of Record for SOA Deployments 
"

David RR Webber (XML) wrote:
> Farrukh,
> My point is that 
"system of record" is just one isolated use case for 
> Registry.
> 
I see that registry is being used for geospatial coordination, secure 
> 
patient record federation, semantic XML content, document 
cataloguing,

> and so on.
> The SOA system of record is IMHO way 
too narrow here. The ebxml 
> registry is not just a UDDI look-a-like for 
SOA as its main purpose...
> Of course the real SOA use case here is 
articulated by OASIS BCM 
> spec's and registry model - but then we'd have 
to explain BCM first ; 
> -) Anyway - you all are doing the present not me 
- I guess next time I

> can sign up to do "ebXML Registry - Beyond SOA 
System of Record"
> ; -)
> DW
>
> "The way to be is to 
do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.)
>
>
>     -------- 
Original Message --------
>     Subject: Re: [regrep] Title 
suggestion for Webinar
>     From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" 
<farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com>
>     Date: Sat, May 12, 
2007 1:32 pm
>     To: "David RR Webber (XML)" 
<david@drrw.info>
>     Cc: ebXML Regrep 
<regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
>
>
>     Based 
on my customer experience, Governance is the most pressing
>     
need in SOA today
>     and fortunately that is precisely where 
RegRep helps the most.
>
>     "Enabling" is too fuzzy and 
does not capture the central role that
>     RegRep plays in SOA 
which is
>     that it is "The System of Record" for SOA 
deployments. My wife
>     acuses me of being an 
"enabler"
>     for my children's delinquencies 
;-)
>
>     You can see that point being drilled home by 
practically anyone
>     who is selling a SOA 
Repository:
>
>
>     Infravio:
>   
  "Create a *system of record* for your SOA metadata - policies,
> 
    schema, .docs, performance *..."
>     
> 
*<http://www1.webmethods.com/PDF/datasheets/Infravio_X-Registry_Datash
> 
eet.pdf>*
>
>     *Systinet:*
>     
*"Systinet provides the "*system of record*" for SOA and *...*
>   
  Must provide the "*system* *of record*""
>     
> 
<http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/17235/Systinet%20Re
> 
gistry%20NASA%20Presentation%203-15-06.pdf>
>
>     IBM 
WSRR:
>     "In this context, *WSRR* handles the metadata 
management aspects
>     of operational services and provides 
the *system of record* of
>     these metadata artefacts 
"
>     
> 
<http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/sr/v6r0/index.jsp?topic=/com
> 
.ibm.sr.doc/cwsr_overview_overview04.html>
>
>     
BEA:
>     "The BEA AquaLogic Service Registry, through an 
embedded
>     governance framework, acts as a central location 
for managing the
>     services life cycle. It makes an SOA more 
transparent by serving
>     as the *system of record* where 
services..."
>
<http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/BEAS/124821163x0x84099/9502bab0-
de1a-4a7c-b20a-292459a97a24/q3BEA%20At%20A%20Glance.pdf>
> 
    "It provides a *system-of-record* for these policies and is 
used
>     to define and enforce business policies. enlarge. 
AquaLogic
>     Service *Registry* is employed *..."*
> 
    
<http://es.bea.com/products/aqualogic/service_registry>
>
> 
    Oracle:
>     "leverage *Oracle* Service 
*Registry* to publish and advertise
>     services and enable 
*...* It also serves as the *System of Record*
>     for all. 
"
>
<http://www.oracle.com/technologies/soa/oracle-soa-suite-datasheet.pdf
> 
    >
>
>     Tibco:
>     
"TIBCO ActiveMatrix *Registry* is a standards-. based *system of
>   
  record* for discovering, *...*"
>     
> 
<http://www.tibco.com/resources/software/soa/ds_activematrix_*registry
> 
*.pdf>
>
>     Actional:
>     "A SOA 
*system of record*, or *registry*, is designed to be a
>     
central holding place for information about service consumers,
>   
  providers, policies, 
*...*"
>
<http://www.actional.com/resources/webinars/SOA-Lifecycle/SOA-System.htm
l
> 
    >
>
>     IONA:
>     
"Artix *Registry*/Repository enables customers to design, build,
>   
  deploy and manage a network of business services by providing a
> 
    complete *system of record* of *...**"*
>     
<http://www.iona.com/pressroom/2007/20070326.htm >
>
>   
  SOA Software:
>     "All SOA Software products rely on an 
underlying UDDIv3 *Registry*
>     as a core repository and 
*system of record* for service data. The
>     product are all 
fully *..."
>     
<*www.soa.com/index.php/section/products/*registry*_manager/>
>
>
> 
    For this reason I feel *very strongly* about "The System 
of
>     Record" part of the title as that is precisely the role 
of RegRep
>     in SOA.
>
>     If the 
term "governance" is an issue then how about:
>
>     
"
>     OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository
>   
  The System of Record for SOA Deployments
>     
"
>
>     Thanks.
>
>     David RR 
Webber (XML) wrote:
>>     Farrukh,
>>     
You need something catchy, short and to the point -
>>     
OASIS ebXML Registry Repository - enabling SOA solutions
>>   
  Since OASIS is the sponsor - no need to muddy the waters with
>> 
    inserting ISO too.
>>     Also - the aim should 
be to catch peoples interest - and have
>>     them attend - 
not drive them away!!!
>>     So your title is to specific - 
what if the reader thinks - "huh -
>>     my business needs 
are nothing to do with "governance" - my CFO
>>     just 
wants me to help sales of more widgets".
>>     Perhaps I do 
need to understand possible "SOA solutions" for
that.
>>   
  Think marketing - not technobabble ; -)
>>     
DW
>>
>>     "The way to be is to do" - Confucius 
(551-472 B.C.)
>>
>>
>>         
-------- Original Message --------
>>         
Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar
>>     
    From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" 
<farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com>
>>         
Date: Fri, May 11, 2007 3:48 pm
>>         To: 
"David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info>
>>       
  Cc: ebXML Regrep 
<regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
>>
>>       
  What exactly is a "Service Oriented Arcitecture
Architectures" and 
how
>>         is it better than
>>   
      "Service Oriented 
Arcitecture"?
>>
>>
>>         
David RR Webber (XML) wrote:
>>         > 
Farrukh,
>>         >  
>>   
      > Seems to pigeon hole you too much.
>>   
      >  
>>         > 
What about - "OASIS ebXML Registry Repository - enabling
SOA
>> 
        > architectures.
>>       
  >  
>>         > DW
>> 
        >
>>         > 
"The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.)
>>     
    >
>>         >
>> 
        >     -------- Original Message 
--------
>>         >     Subject: 
[regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar
>>         
>     From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" 
<farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com
<#Compose>>
>>   
      >     Date: Fri, May 11, 2007 12:39 
pm
>>         >     To: ebXML Regrep 
<regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
<#Compose>>
>>   
      >
>>         >   
  Dear colleagues,
>>         >
>> 
        >     I would like to propose the 
following title:
>>         >
>>   
      >     "
>>       
  >     OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository
>>   
      >
>>         >   
  The System of Record for SOA Governance
>>       
  >     "
>>         
>
>>         >     Note that 
"Record" in prioposed title implies any type
of
>>     
    information.
>>         
>
>>         >     This title 
focuses the presentation on use of RegRep as
a SOA
>>     
    Repository
>>         >   
  and key enabler for SOA Governance.
>>       
  >
>>         >     We can 
make sure we explain upfront that RegRep can
support many
>>   
      other
>>         >   
  diverse use cases but that the
>>         
>     presentation will focus on this specific one to make 
it
more
>>         concrete
>>   
      >     for this use case.
>>   
      >
>>         >   
  Please let me know what you think of the title. Also is
it 
too
>>         late for
>>     
    >     us to change to Webinar title to match whatever 
we
decide?
>>         >
>>   
      >     Carl, Nikola and I will work on the 
draft slides and
plan to
>>         have 
an
>>         >     initial slide deck 
for team review by next TC meeting.
>>         > 
    Nikola and I got start on this earlier this 
week.
Thanks.
>>         >
>>   
      >     -- 
>>       
  >     Regards,
>>         > 
    Farrukh
>>         >
>> 
        >     Web: 
http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com
<http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/>
>> 
        
<http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/>
>>       
  >
>>         >
>>   
      >         
>>     
    >
>>
>>
>>       
  -- 
>>         Regards,
>>   
      Farrukh
>>
>>         
Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com 
>> 
<http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/>
>>
>>
>> 
            
>>
>
>
> 
    -- 
>     Regards,
>     
Farrukh
>
>     Web: 
http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com
>
>         
>


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