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Subject: RE: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar
My apologies. Here are all of the proposals (I think) for the title thus far: ebXML Registry and Repository: adoption, applications and SOA deployments ebXML Registry and Repository: SOA, applications, deployments and governance OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository: the System of Record for SOA Governance OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository The System of Record for SOA Deployments OASIS ebXML Registry Repository - enabling SOA solutions Kathryn Breininger Boeing Library Services 425-965-0182 phone -----Original Message----- From: Farrukh S. Najmi [mailto:farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 12:31 PM To: Breininger, Kathryn R Cc: ebXML Regrep Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar Why are we limiting it to the last two proposals? I would like all proposals on the table to be considered (including the two I made) and for this to be an agenda item for our next meeting. I believe it is only fair considering how much data I have provided to back up my suggestions. BTW, I thought David had agreed with me in his last post regarding the use of "System of Record" after I posted a lengthy list os SOA companies using that term to describe Registry Repository role. He said: > On review this morning seems like we have a Gartner magic quadrant in > the making here around this term "system of record" solutions - no > point in knocking on whether this is a good term or not - if Gartner > et al have spoken then I guess we have to embrace and extend! As for the last two suggestions listed below, I feel they are too broad and fuzzy. I think what people want more than anything else is to learn what key problems RegRep solves and how. The most burning problem on people's minds is SOA Governance. We should focus our talk on how RegRep supports both "design time" and "run time" governance. We can mention how it can be used for broader purposes but stay "on message" regarding it being "the system of record for SOA governance". Breininger, Kathryn R wrote: > Do we have opinions on the last two proposals: > > > ebXML Registry and Repository: adoption, applications and SOA > deployments > > > ebXML Registry and Repository: SOA, applications, deployments and > governance > > > > *Kathryn Breininger* > Boeing Library Services > 425-965-0182 phone > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > *From:* Carl Mattocks [mailto:cmattocks@metlife.com] > *Sent:* Monday, May 14, 2007 7:31 AM > *To:* Breininger, Kathryn R > *Cc:* David RR Webber (XML); Farrukh S. Najmi; ebXML Regrep > *Subject:* RE: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar > > > Since the word has already got out ... the title should highlight the > proposed content > > ebXML Registry and Repository:SOA, applications, deployments and > governance > > > OASIS ebXML Registry v3.0 Standard Overview. The > > ebXML Registry Standard provides the functionality needed for > > governance and management of electronic artifacts for SOA > > deployments; it has been adopted and deployed in vertical industries > > including government, health care, geospatial, telecommunications, > > banking, and finance. > > > > > > > > Carl Mattocks > Consultant : ITIL Application Knowledge Management MetLife 732 893 > 4170 > > 'Always look on the bright side of life' Monty Python > > > *"Breininger, Kathryn R" <kathryn.r.breininger@boeing.com>* > > 05/14/2007 09:55 AM > > > To > "Farrukh S. Najmi" <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com>, "David RR Webber > (XML)" <david@drrw.info> cc > "ebXML Regrep" <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org> Subject > RE: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar > > > > > > > > > > Actually, our original title and abstract got cut down to where I > think we have lost a bit of what we originally intended. Originally, > we wanted to emphasize implementations and adoption, partly due to the > recent analyst reports etc that seemed to imply no one is using ebXML. > Our original title was: "OASIS ebXML Registry v3.0 Standards: > Overview, adoption, applications, and profiles". SOA was only part of > what we wanted to cover. The key messages we wanted to get across > were > (http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/email/archives/20 > 07 > 03/msg00020.html): > Key messages: > ebXML Registry is: > > l Being widely adopted and implemented in various industry > segments and standards, ebXML Registry broadly applicable as an > important infrastructure component, used in ebXML environments, SOA > platforms, other broad domains/spectrums > l Numerous Profiles completed and in work (web > services, ontology, > etc), takes advantage of extensibility > > And we were planning to include a brief demo. I would like to try to > maintain some of our original intention, as I believe implementation, > adoption and where and how to use are key to getting others interested > in ebXML Registry. > > We do definitely need to try to get something back into the title!! > Would this work: > > ebXML Registry and Repository: adoption, applications and SOA > deployments > > (trying a compromise here!) :-) > > > > Kathryn Breininger > Boeing Library Services > 425-965-0182 phone > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Farrukh S. Najmi [mailto:farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com] > Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 3:55 PM > To: David RR Webber (XML) > Cc: ebXML Regrep > Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar > > David, > > With due respects, my main point based on seven years of intense and > focused practical deployment experience with regrep is that regrep's > main purpose in life is as a "System of Record" and that is not "just > one isolated use case for Registry". I believe that is true in > "geospatial coordination, secure patient record federation, semantic > XML content, document cataloguing, and so on". > > I made it clear in my original suggestion that I will make it clear > during the presentation that RegRep's uses are way more than SOA. > However, SOA is the focus of our presentation as I recall to be agreed > by the TC. > > Therefor with due respects, I still feel the following is the best > title: > > " > OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository > The System of Record for SOA Governace " > > If necessary, I am willing to live with: > > " > OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository > The System of Record for SOA Deployments " > > David RR Webber (XML) wrote: > > Farrukh, > > My point is that "system of record" is just one isolated use case > > for Registry. > > I see that registry is being used for geospatial coordination, > > secure patient record federation, semantic XML content, document > > cataloguing, > > > and so on. > > The SOA system of record is IMHO way too narrow here. The ebxml > > registry is not just a UDDI look-a-like for SOA as its main purpose... > > Of course the real SOA use case here is articulated by OASIS BCM > > spec's and registry model - but then we'd have to explain BCM first > > ; > > -) Anyway - you all are doing the present not me - I guess next time > > I > > > can sign up to do "ebXML Registry - Beyond SOA System of Record" > > ; -) > > DW > > > > "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.) > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar > > From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com> > > Date: Sat, May 12, 2007 1:32 pm > > To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info> > > Cc: ebXML Regrep <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org> > > > > > > Based on my customer experience, Governance is the most pressing > > need in SOA today > > and fortunately that is precisely where RegRep helps the most. > > > > "Enabling" is too fuzzy and does not capture the central role that > > RegRep plays in SOA which is > > that it is "The System of Record" for SOA deployments. My wife > > acuses me of being an "enabler" > > for my children's delinquencies ;-) > > > > You can see that point being drilled home by practically anyone > > who is selling a SOA Repository: > > > > > > Infravio: > > "Create a *system of record* for your SOA metadata - policies, > > schema, .docs, performance *..." > > > > *<http://www1.webmethods.com/PDF/datasheets/Infravio_X-Registry_Data > > sh > > eet.pdf>* > > > > *Systinet:* > > *"Systinet provides the "*system of record*" for SOA and *...* > > Must provide the "*system* *of record*"" > > > > <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/17235/Systinet%20 > > Re gistry%20NASA%20Presentation%203-15-06.pdf> > > > > IBM WSRR: > > "In this context, *WSRR* handles the metadata management aspects > > of operational services and provides the *system of record* of > > these metadata artefacts " > > > > <http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/sr/v6r0/index.jsp?topic=/c > > om .ibm.sr.doc/cwsr_overview_overview04.html> > > > > BEA: > > "The BEA AquaLogic Service Registry, through an embedded > > governance framework, acts as a central location for managing the > > services life cycle. It makes an SOA more transparent by serving > > as the *system of record* where services..." > > > <http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/BEAS/124821163x0x84099/9502bab > 0- de1a-4a7c-b20a-292459a97a24/q3BEA%20At%20A%20Glance.pdf> > > "It provides a *system-of-record* for these policies and is used > > to define and enforce business policies. enlarge. AquaLogic > > Service *Registry* is employed *..."* > > <http://es.bea.com/products/aqualogic/service_registry> > > > > Oracle: > > "leverage *Oracle* Service *Registry* to publish and advertise > > services and enable *...* It also serves as the *System of Record* > > for all. " > > > <http://www.oracle.com/technologies/soa/oracle-soa-suite-datasheet.pdf > > > > > > > Tibco: > > "TIBCO ActiveMatrix *Registry* is a standards-. based *system of > > record* for discovering, *...*" > > > > <http://www.tibco.com/resources/software/soa/ds_activematrix_*regist > > ry > > *.pdf> > > > > Actional: > > "A SOA *system of record*, or *registry*, is designed to be a > > central holding place for information about service consumers, > > providers, policies, *...*" > > > <http://www.actional.com/resources/webinars/SOA-Lifecycle/SOA-System.h > tm > l > > > > > > > IONA: > > "Artix *Registry*/Repository enables customers to design, build, > > deploy and manage a network of business services by providing a > > complete *system of record* of *...**"* > > <http://www.iona.com/pressroom/2007/20070326.htm > > > > > SOA Software: > > "All SOA Software products rely on an underlying UDDIv3 *Registry* > > as a core repository and *system of record* for service data. The > > product are all fully *..." > > <*www.soa.com/index.php/section/products/*registry*_manager/> > > > > > > For this reason I feel *very strongly* about "The System of > > Record" part of the title as that is precisely the role of RegRep > > in SOA. > > > > If the term "governance" is an issue then how about: > > > > " > > OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository > > The System of Record for SOA Deployments > > " > > > > Thanks. > > > > David RR Webber (XML) wrote: > >> Farrukh, > >> You need something catchy, short and to the point - > >> OASIS ebXML Registry Repository - enabling SOA solutions > >> Since OASIS is the sponsor - no need to muddy the waters with > >> inserting ISO too. > >> Also - the aim should be to catch peoples interest - and have > >> them attend - not drive them away!!! > >> So your title is to specific - what if the reader thinks - "huh - > >> my business needs are nothing to do with "governance" - my CFO > >> just wants me to help sales of more widgets". > >> Perhaps I do need to understand possible "SOA solutions" for > that. > >> Think marketing - not technobabble ; -) > >> DW > >> > >> "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.) > >> > >> > >> -------- Original Message -------- > >> Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar > >> From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com> > >> Date: Fri, May 11, 2007 3:48 pm > >> To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info> > >> Cc: ebXML Regrep <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org> > >> > >> What exactly is a "Service Oriented Arcitecture > Architectures" and how > >> is it better than > >> "Service Oriented Arcitecture"? > >> > >> > >> David RR Webber (XML) wrote: > >> > Farrukh, > >> > > >> > Seems to pigeon hole you too much. > >> > > >> > What about - "OASIS ebXML Registry Repository - enabling > SOA > >> > architectures. > >> > > >> > DW > >> > > >> > "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.) > >> > > >> > > >> > -------- Original Message -------- > >> > Subject: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar > >> > From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com > <#Compose>> > >> > Date: Fri, May 11, 2007 12:39 pm > >> > To: ebXML Regrep <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org > <#Compose>> > >> > > >> > Dear colleagues, > >> > > >> > I would like to propose the following title: > >> > > >> > " > >> > OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository > >> > > >> > The System of Record for SOA Governance > >> > " > >> > > >> > Note that "Record" in prioposed title implies any type > of > >> information. > >> > > >> > This title focuses the presentation on use of RegRep as > a SOA > >> Repository > >> > and key enabler for SOA Governance. > >> > > >> > We can make sure we explain upfront that RegRep can > support many > >> other > >> > diverse use cases but that the > >> > presentation will focus on this specific one to make it > more > >> concrete > >> > for this use case. > >> > > >> > Please let me know what you think of the title. Also is > it too > >> late for > >> > us to change to Webinar title to match whatever we > decide? > >> > > >> > Carl, Nikola and I will work on the draft slides and > plan to > >> have an > >> > initial slide deck for team review by next TC meeting. > >> > Nikola and I got start on this earlier this week. > Thanks. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Regards, > >> > Farrukh > >> > > >> > Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com > <http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/> > >> <http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Regards, > >> Farrukh > >> > >> Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com > >> <http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Farrukh > > > > Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Farrukh > > Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com > > > > > The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is for the intended addressee only. Any unauthorized use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. > -- Regards, Farrukh Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com
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