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Subject: Minutes for RELAX NG TC 2001-06-28
Minutes for RELAX NG TC meeting held Thursday, June 28, 2001 10:30 AM EDT (UTC -05:00) [Please post corrections and amendments by replying to the list. -mjf] Attendees James Josh Murata-san Fabio Kawaguchi-san David Mike F. Not Attending Norm Mike S. Next meeting: Thursday, July 5, 2001, 10:30 AM (UTC -05:00) 1. Issue 3: xml:base: now that it's Rec, I hope we can close this issue TC agreed unanimously to close this issue, meaning that we will support the xml:base attribute. Of historical interest: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/relax-ng/200102/msg00005.html 2. Issues process TC agreed that we have one more week to suggest additional issues for consideration for v1.0 by just mailing them to the list; after July 5, 2001, an issue must have the support of one-third of voting members in order to get it on the list. Original mail: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/relax-ng/200106/msg00260.html There is no issue on the issue list for the issue process. 3. Common annotations: should we produce a spec as an official committee work product? Kohsuke expressed concern that such a spec would augment the infoset. Makoto said that he feels that people are used to being able to express default values for attributes. Kohsuke said it may be purely for documentation but it looks inconsistent. Norm is converting DocBook to RELAX NG and Makoto was interested in seeing his work on default attributes before we make a decision. James said that he thinks having our own annotations would make things simpler than having to depend on XHTML. The TC deferred on this issue until next week. There is no issue on the issue list for this. Of historical interest (see associated threads for broader discussion): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/relax-ng/200106/msg00262.html http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/relax-ng/200106/msg00213.html Ancient: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/relax-ng/200104/msg00026.html 4. Issue 42: Syntax for not and difference in name classes James countered Makoto's <anyNameExcept> proposal with http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/relax-ng/200106/msg00259.html and Makoto voiced his agreement with http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/relax-ng/200106/msg00314.html. The TC agreed to: 1. drop not/difference and replace with except in name classes 2. drop difference in patterns and use except with data subordinate 3. Open a new issue on what to allow in except James suggested that we play around with the grammar to see what comes simply and cleanly. 5. Extending not and difference to strings This discussion was subsumed under item 4. 6. Issue 5: Syntax for global attribute on attribute element James sent out a pleading mail on getting discussion going on this http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/relax-ng/200106/msg00266.html; he may send out a threatening one if we don't get going. See http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/relax-ng/200106/msg00202.html Deferred till next week. 7. Issue 43: Syntax for key and keyRef Message from Franck Delahaye http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/relax-ng/200106/msg00296.html inspired this issue. He pointed out some tripwire in the current implementation. There was general support for moving to an element rather than attribute syntax for key/keyRef. James said we are element heavy and such a move is stylistically more consistent with the language. Having key/keyRef inside data does not solve Franck's problem. BTW, David doesn't like regular expressions! We deferred on this issue. 8. Issue 41: Adding pattern facet to <text/>: I would like to get people's opinion on which side of the 80/20 line this is This issue was brought forward by Makoto in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/relax-ng/200106/msg00295.html. James feels that this is an issue of character classes, not just a facet. I18n people see to want it but Fabio was not so sure it was that important to them. Makoto was to send a link on character collections from Martin Duerst which his did at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/relax-ng/200106/msg00316.html. TC tentatively agreed not have pattern facet but we still want to address the issue. 9. Issue 32: Context info for type libraries Skipped. Mike ==== Wy'east Communications http://www.wyeast.net mailto:mike@wyeast.net
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