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Subject: [rights] FYI: Internet DRM group in the IETF
The Internet DRM (IDRM) group in the IETF is in the process of re-chartering. It has been dormant for over a year due to DMCA-related issues. The website is www.idrm.org. If you are interested in DRM beyond rights-expression languages, here is an opportunity to contribute and shape the group. Regards, Thomas Hardjono --------------- IDRM co-chair >Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:43:00 -0800 >From: Mark Baugher <mbaugher@cisco.com> >Subject: [IDRM] Disband or recharter IDRM? >X-Sender: mbaugher@mira-sjc5-6.cisco.com >To: ietf-idrm@lists.elistx.com >Cc: thardjono@yahoo.com, Vern Paxson <vern@icir.org> >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 >List-Owner: <mailto:ietf-idrm-help@lists.elistx.com> >List-Post: <mailto:ietf-idrm@lists.elistx.com> >List-Subscribe: <http://lists.elistx.com/ob/adm.pl>, > <mailto:ietf-idrm-request@lists.elistx.com?body=subscribe> >List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.elistx.com/ob/adm.pl>, > <mailto:ietf-idrm-request@lists.elistx.com?body=unsubscribe> >List-Archive: <http://lists.elistx.com/archives/ietf-idrm/> >List-Help: <http://lists.elistx.com/elists/admin.shtml>, > <mailto:ietf-idrm-request@lists.elistx.com?body=help> >List-Id: <ietf-idrm.lists.elistx.com> > >IDRM has obviously been dormant for about a year. Over the past year, >many content-trading businesses and DRM technology vendors have >failed. The movie studios are currently trying out Internet distribution >while there is a buzz in the technical community about the irrelevance of >DRM to internet entertainment. Nonetheless, DRM-based products are >incubating at a few big software, entertainment, and consumer electronics >companies; these will likely affect the Internet in years to come. The >EFF and a few other public-interest groups have consistently raised >important privacy and consumer rights issues related to aspects of DRM >technology. Some of these concerns are echoed in the standards >bodies. Although, MPEG and other organizations are standardizing >interfaces to key management, licensing, and content-protection systems, >IDRM has done little towards our original goals of investigating the >affects of DRM technologies on Internet open-standards and the end-to-end >model. > >Thomas, Sam Sun, Vern Paxson and I have been discussing the state and >direction of IDRM for many months now. We have considered resuming our >work despite the dissension that the very notion of DRM causes within the >Internet community; we have also discussed re-chartering the group, as >well as disbanding the group. We think that the right thing to do at this >time is to open a discussion on this list. And we thought we would share >with you just a few things that we have discussed up to this point. > >First, there are interoperability issues in DRM. Entertainment systems >typically use licensed standards rather than open standards so the >licensor can validate that the licensee addresses various concerns for >content handling. When applied to the Internet, this tradition might >foster proprietary protocols that diminish interoperability, increase >complexity, discourage innovation and increase costs. For example, DVB >simulcrypt interoperates with a great variety of key management protocols, >which is good, but it is prohibitively expensive to introduce standardized >key management in DVB systems, which is bad. Regardless of one's feelings >toward DRM or content protection, open standards can mitigate some >negative effects of this trend through standard interfaces to end systems. > >There are also general end-to-end issues that have a technology component. >At the level of the global Internet, the DRM concerns raised by Internet >music and movie trading are another case of one community (national, >regional or virtual) wanting to assert control over how the Internet is >used by others. DRM is closely related to privacy rights of individuals >and groups, to the conflict between community standards and a global >information infrastructure. There are some problems posed for the Internet >end-to-end principle by the demand for controls by geographical regions or >global industries. I doubt whether these problems have technical >solutions but they may foster new technologies and standards, for better >or worse, such a P3P. These technologies are of interest to the Internet >community, and the IDRM RG could serve as a forum for them just as it >could serve as a group that looks ahead towards new standards needed by >applications that use content protection or DRM technologies. > >We can think of reasons, therefore, to keep the IDRM group >functioning. But our list has been dormant and little work has been >brought to the group over the past 18 months. We should consider these >things as we consider what to do with IDRM. > >Mark
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