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Subject: RE: [saml-dev] SAML Usage Statistics?
Scott, I'm not in Atlanta, so I can't take you up on the lunch offer, but I'm available for a phone chat next week if you'd like. There are a couple of approaches folks seem to take for deploying SAML. Some early adopters took the approach of integrating SAML into their environments using toolkits that are available from several places. Some folks still take this approach, especially if they need to make use of generalized SAML queries to solve a unique problem they have. The number of these types of deployments may be low. Today, quite a few vendors have COTS implementations for SAML that, at a minimum, can be used to create SSO solutions across security domains (e.g. between business partners). Most of these COTS products are integrated with other Web Access Management (WAM) and identity management systems that the vendors sell. Many are customizable to varying degrees so that you can deploy with applications not protected by WAM products. Now that many of the vendors are now on their second or third revisions of their solutions, my sense is that deployments for these solutions are becoming much more wide-spread. You may get some data to substantiate this by contacting each vendor independently. The great thing about these solutions is the interoperability. At this years RSA Conference, we hosted a public interop event where 12 vendors demonstrated SAML V1.1 interoperability for SSO using both the Browser/Artifact Profile and the Browser/POST Profile. Many good but complex technologies have failed in the market because the time/$ required to integrate/deploy/manage them have exceeded some pain threshold. But I don't see that happening with SAML, especially where existing identity management and WAM products are directly integrating SAML under the covers or as an add-on. I foresee continued improvements in this integration and an emphasis on making the solutions easy to manage and deploy so as to not cross that pain threshold. Rob Philpott Senior Consulting Engineer RSA Security Inc. Tel: 781-515-7115 Mobile: 617-510-0893 Fax: 781-515-7020 mailto:rphilpott@rsasecurity.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott Burkey [mailto:sab@magner.net] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 9:02 AM To: saml-dev@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [saml-dev] SAML Usage Statistics? I'm very interested in speaking with somebody (if you're in Atlanta....I'll spring for lunch at the restaurant of YOUR choice!) either in person or on the phone about what it would REALLY cost to put SAML in place in my environment. My company has no real "pain" to motivate it to spring for the $ for resources to do so, so it would be something that my team would have to do "on the side". So time/$ would be a factor. We're good technologists, but spread pretty thin these days, like most IT groups in a small company. Anyway, just looking for anyone that I can network with that can share their expriences. Thanks. Scott Burkey -----Original Message----- From: Scott Wiseman [mailto:scott@intercore.net] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 5:05 PM To: saml-dev@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [saml-dev] SAML Usage Statistics? Talk about how easy it is to intergrate and the lowered costs...stream line it baby!!! -----Original Message----- From: Barton Stanley [mailto:barton-stanley@swbell.net] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:05 PM To: saml-dev@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [saml-dev] SAML Usage Statistics? I'm attempting to determine if I can build a fact-based business case that justifies the adoption of SAML if an organization's business partners have not yet adopted it. If an organization's business partners have not adopted SAML then if the organization does adopt it then it is left with the task of "selling" SAML to its partners if its investment in SAML is to pay off. Are there any SAML usage statistics or any other information that might help me build the business case I describe above? If this is not the proper forum for my query, I'd appreciate any pointers to other forums that might be more appropriate. Thanks, Barton Stanley To unsubscribe from this list, send a post to saml-dev-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org, or visit http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/. www.avidware.net www.allaboutsingles.com www.people-services.net www.intercore.net www.avidware.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a post to saml-dev-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org, or visit http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/. To unsubscribe from this list, send a post to saml-dev-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org, or visit http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/.
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