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Subject: Re: [saml-dev] SAML2.0 implementations
Cool! :-) Alistair, can you give more info re Guanxi and/or SAMUEL? (Similar to what Eve did for the others.) Thanks, Tom On 12/2/06, Alistair Young <alistair@smo.uhi.ac.uk> wrote: > Hi folks, > > I thought I'd just chip in my small tuppence worth on SAML toolkits. Seems > I missed the list switch and all the interesting discussions. > > The toolkit that comes with Guanxi, SAMUEL (SAML Used in eLearning) is a > partial SAML1.1 implementation with a planned complete upgrade to SAML2.0, > full coverage, hopefully in the next 6 months. > > I too had a lot of trouble in the early days, with SAML, profiles and > Shibboleth etc. When talking about this to non technical conferences, I > like to think of it all as the "bucket brigade". You have an urgent fire > to put out. The flames of SSO! SAML provides the "buckets" into which > information on how to extinguish the fire is placed by the fire master. > > In the case of Shibboleth, the fire master is your IdP. The SP needs that > info to put out the fire. However, the buckets themselves are useless. > They just sit there doing nothing. That's where the profiles come in. They > specify how to move the buckets around. > > e.g. the Shibboleth SAML1.1 profile says: > "take that bucket marked AuthenticationStatement, scrawl something on it > that I will recognise it came from you, then bung it over there next to > the Respone bucket and ..." > > but Shibboleth is also an implementation? yes, it's the reference > implementation of the Shibboleth SAML profile. Guanxi is another > implementation of that Shibboleth profile. > > Shibboleth uses openSAML to control the buckets. Guanxi uses SAMUEL. > > So there are two levels, the raw SAML "bucket" level. A soup of SAML > tokens. And a higher level, where the profiles live, that stir up that low > level soup. > > So I think it's a good idea to keep the profiles separate from the SAML > tokens themselves. That way you can create all sorts of weird and > wonderful profiles, using the same SAML toolkit. > > Alistair > > -- > mov eax,1 > mov ebx,0 > int 80h > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: saml-dev-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org > For additional commands, e-mail: saml-dev-help@lists.oasis-open.org > >
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