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Subject: Draft formatted minutes of 2008-02-05 are attached


Title: SCA-Assy - 2008-02-05

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OASIS SCA-Assembly TC

05 FEB 2008

Attendees

Present
Charlton Barreto, (Adobe Systems)
fred carter, (AmberPoint)
Mark Combellack, (Avaya, Inc.)
Dale Moberg, (Axway Software*)
David DiFranco, (BEA Systems, Inc.)
Michael Rowley, (BEA Systems, Inc.)
Tom Rutt, (Fujitsu Limited*)
Eisaku Nishiyama, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
Eric Wells, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
Bryan Aupperle, (IBM)
Michael Beisiegel, (IBM)
David Booz, (IBM)
Graham Charters, (IBM)
Jean-Sebastien Delfino, (IBM)
Mike Edwards, (IBM)
Simon Nash, (IBM)
Peter Niblett, (IBM)
Matthew Peters, (IBM)
Peter Furniss, (Iris Financial Solutions Ltd.)
Jeff Estefan, (Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*)
Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)
Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)
Rich Levinson, (Oracle Corporation)
Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation)
Jeff Mischkinsky, (Oracle Corporation)
Ron Barack, (SAP AG*)
Vladislav Bezrukov, (SAP AG*)
Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG*)
Mark Hapner, (Sun Microsystems)
Peter Walker, (Sun Microsystems)
Sabin Ielceanu, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Scott Vorthmann, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Chairs
Martin Chapman
Mike Edwards
Scribe
David Booz
Agenda:
1. Opening
Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing
2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 22/23rd January
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/26945/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202008-01-29.html
3. Action Items:
2008-01-22-1: Testing sub-committee organise themselves, select a chair, and report to the TC
2008-01-22-2: Test team to get on with it
2008-01-22-3: Edwards to write up one or more issues related to this topic.
2008-01-22-4: Rowley to propose a resolution to Assembly-8 according to his inclinations
2008-01-22-6: Karmarkar to coordinate with Alex Yu and produce a new proposal
2008-01-22-8: Rowley to propose a resolution to Assembly-16
2008-01-22-9: Karmarkar to review and refine proposal to Assembly-17
2008-01-22-10: Edwards to prepare a proposal using xsd to resolve Assembly-18
2008-01-22-11: Booz to generate a proposal for the resolution to Assembly-22
2008-01-22-12: Koenig to produce a proposal to address Assembly-33 based in part on his presentation and the discussion in the room
2008-01-22-13: Edwards to take this topic to the bindings tcs for further consideration
4. New Issues
ASSEMBLY-XX: Dynamic Aspects of the Domain not adequately described in the Assembly Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-XX
5. Open Issues
ASSEMBLY-10: URI attribute should not be mandatory for bindings
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-10
Proposed resolution:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200801/msg00072.html
ASSEMBLY-18: XSD definitions of Component Service and Component Referencehave unintended features
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-18
Proposed resolution:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00005.html
ASSEMBLY-23: SCA declarations should use namespace ##other rather than ##any
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-23
Proposed resolution:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00007.html
ASSEMBLY-17: Need to define Namespace handling for included Composites
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-17
Proposed resolution:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00013.html
6. AOB

Contents

Topics
[1]  roll call
[2]  Approval of minutes
[3]  action items
[4]  New Issues
[5]  Assemby-10
[6]  Assembly-18
[7]  Assembly-23
[8]  Assembly-17
[9]  AOB
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

Old:
2008-01-22-1: id=2008-01-22-1 on going, first meeting next week
2008-01-22-4: id=2008-01-22-4 due 2008-02-11
2008-01-22-8: id=2008-01-22-8 due=2008-02-11
2008-01-22-6: id=2008-01-22-6 due=2008-02-06
2008-01-22-9: id=2008-01-22-9 status=done
2008-01-22-10: id=2008-01-22-10 status=done
2008-01-22-3: id=2008-01-22-3 status=done
2008-01-22-11: id=2008-01-22-11 due=2008-02-08
2008-01-22-12: id=2008-01-22-12 status=ongoing
2008-01-22-13: id=2008-01-22-13 status=done
2008-01-29-1: id=2008-01-29-1 status=done
New:
2008-02-05-1: Edwards to post updated schemas

Resolutions


Minutes

Scribe: David Booz

roll call

 
attendance is 24 out of 36, meeting is quorate
 
no proposed changes to agenda

Approval of minutes

<Sanjay>
what happened to minutes approval?
 
<Mike Edwards>
Resolution: Minutes of 2008-01-29 are accepted w/o

action items

Action: id=2008-01-22-1 on going, first meeting next week
<anish>
the public link to the minutes is:
<anish>
<Scott>
issue "XX" on today's agenda has now been created, as issue 46
Action: id=2008-01-22-4 due 2008-02-11
Action: id=2008-01-22-8 due=2008-02-11
Action: id=2008-01-22-6 due=2008-02-06
<Scott>
Action: id=2008-01-22-9 status=done
Action: id=2008-01-22-10 status=done
Action: id=2008-01-22-3 status=done
Action: id=2008-01-22-11 due=2008-02-08
Action: id=2008-01-22-12 status=ongoing
Action: id=2008-01-22-13 status=done
Action: id=2008-01-29-1 status=done

New Issues

 
Topic New issue Assembly-46
 
Chapman chairing
 
Edwards describes the issue
<anish>
i agree this issue needs to be opened, but don't think we should mandate behavior of runtimes
<anish>
wrt dynamic behavior
Resolution: m:Edwards S:Charters New issue Assembly-46 is opened w/o
<Sanjay>
we should discuss 46 before 40, 41, 42
 
Edwards resumes as chair

Assemby-10

 
Edwards describes the proposal - CNA due to duplicate of issue 6
Resolution: m:Edwards s: Patil To resolve Assembly-10 by closing with no action as it is a duplicate of Assembly-6 w/o

Assembly-18

 
 
Edwards describes the proposal
Anish:
Does this proposal solve the UPA problem? Answer no
<Mike Edwards>
Extra proposal:
 
some discussion on a desire to solve the UPA issue at the same time
<Ashok>
Change contract definition to:
<Ashok>
<complexType name="Contract" abstract="true">
<sequence>
<element ref="sca:interface" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1" />
<element name="operation" type="sca:Operation" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded" />
<choice minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded">
<element ref="sca:binding" />
<any namespace="##other" processContents="lax" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded" />
</choice>
<element ref="sca:callback" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1" />

</sequence>
<attribute name="name" type="NCName" use="required" />
<attribute name="requires" type="sca:listOfQNames" use="optional" />
<attribute name="policySets" type="sca:listOfQNames" use="optional"/>
<anyAttribute namespace="##any" processContents="lax" />
</complexType>
<Mike Edwards>
Fix the UPA problem with the Contract complex type by removing the <any/> element from within the <choice/> defined within the Contract complex type
<anish>
replace:
<anish>
<choice minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded">
<element ref="sca:binding" />
<any namespace="##other" processContents="lax" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded" />
<anish>
with:
<anish>

<element ref="sca:binding" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded"/>
<Mike Edwards>
....and as a result remove the <choice/> element as it is redundant
<Mike Edwards>
leaving the <<element ref="sca:binding"> .../> element, with minOccurs=0 and maxOccurs="unbounded"
<Mike Edwards>
thanks Anish
 
Edwards moves that issue 18 be resolved by modifying the proposal in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00016.html by removing the <choice/> element from the Contract abstract type and leaving the <element ref="sca:binding"> element
Vladislav Bezrukov: where is the <any> now?
<Mike Edwards>
[1] <complexType name="Contract" abstract="true">
<sequence>
<element ref="sca:interface" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1" />
<element name="operation" type="sca:Operation" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded" />
<element ref="sca:binding" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded"/>
<element ref="sca:callback" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1" />
<any namespace="##other" processContents="lax" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded" />
</sequence>
<attribute name="name" type="NCName" use="required" />
<attribute name="requires" type="sca:listOfQNames" use="optional" />
<attribute name="policySets" type="sca:listOfQNames" use="optional"/>
<anyAttribute namespace="##any" processContents="lax" />
</complexType>
Action: Edwards to post updated schemas
Resolution: m: Edwards s: Baretto resolve Assembly-18 with proposal above[1] w/o

Assembly-23

 
Edwards is busy today, and describes the proposal for this issue also
 
Edwards moves to resolve issue 23 as identified in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00007.html seconded by Bryan A
anish:
if ns says ##other, are elements that dont belong to any namespace allowed?
 
Mike R suggests probably no, there is no definitive answer given by anyone
<Peter Niblett>
is the question about elements or attributes?
<Peter Niblett>
but does no-namespace apply to attributes? I thought it was only for elements
 
Mike R - spec says ##other only means not the sca ns (in this context)
<Peter Niblett>
an unqualified attribute usually belongs in the namespace of the enclosing element
<Michael Rowley>
<Dale Moberg>
Stylusstudio says about ##other: Any well-formed XML that is from a namespace other thannot from the target namespace of the type being defined (unqualified elements are not allowed)
Resolution: m:Edwards s: Aupperly Resolve Assembly-23 with proposal contained in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00007.html w/o

Assembly-17

 
Edwards resumes as chair
 
Anish describes the proposal
 
discussion is postponed due to press of time

AOB

 
Straggler roll
 
meeting adjourned

[End of Minutes]
Formatted on 2008-02-11 at 22:05:33 GMT-5


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